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If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below. Page 1 of 2 12 Last Jump to page: Results 1 to 20 of 35 Thread: mr2 racing Thread Tools Show Printable Version Display Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode 10-26-2010, 12:19 PM #1 romierome View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries mentally missing Join Date Aug 2010 Location terre haute IN Posts 114 Thanks  2 Thanks  2 Thanked in2 Posts Total Contributions For
romierome     $ 0.00 mr2 racing As im getting all the kinks worked out of my car I was wondering who all on here auto x or dose track days. And if so what are ur set ups what class, o and pictures or videos would be cool to. Reply With Quote 10-26-2010, 09:45 PM #2 powderballz View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries i is more smart then u Join Date Oct 2007 Location Akron, OHIO Posts 362 Thanks  3 Thanks  8 Thanked in7 Posts Total Contributions For
powderballz     $ 0.00 I'll autoX mine every now and then, I run formula SAE so I'll usually drive that when I can and pass up the MR2. I was planning on running at Mid-Ohio last Summer, but a sloppy steering rack and blown struts kept me at home for the weekend.

First MR2 I had that I autoXed quite regularly was completely stock but I had r-comps, and the car was really loose. My new car I have had koni's all the way around and a stiffer front bar and I ran it once on street tires and it had a terrible push. Both cars were in E-stock when i ran them, now the new car has tein coilovers and I'm planning some go-fast mods for next summer. Dustin Z
2009 Eastern States SR Champ Reply With Quote 10-26-2010, 11:19 PM #3 Heytheremr2 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Honorary Mexican Join Date Feb 2009 Location Chillin hella tuff in, Washington Posts 1,882 Thanks  2 Thanks  66 Thanked in62 Posts Total Contributions For
Heytheremr2     $ 0.00 I want to get into auto-x but I need to install my fcd, mbc, boost gauge, fix my clutch pedal, and get new tires. I don't know where to to start but I'll figure that out. Reply With Quote 10-30-2010, 08:59 PM #4 Skittles View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Cage Fighter Join Date Mar 2010 Posts 186 Thanks  1 Thanks  2 Thanked in2 Posts Total Contributions For
Skittles     $ 0.00 Getting into AutoX when 2011 comes around. Reply With Quote 10-30-2010, 11:26 PM #5 328FTW View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage Shim is a Nazi Join Date Aug 2008 Location New Zealand Posts 5,928 Thanks  35 Thanks  323 Thanked in288 Posts Total Contributions For
328FTW     $ 35.00 I was doing it all the time but lately I've been crewing for an A grade midget team but it was totalled last night in a bad accident so I might get back onto getting my car ready.

Setting up the car was easy, throw a swaybar in the back, stock springs and KYB front struts then have at it. I could of improved that greatly for tarmac but I was mostly into rally with occasional tarmac events. And I was in a 4cylinder class that allowed any modification except space framing so original suspension mounts must be maintained otherwise no real rules and I still did very well. I like turtles Reply With Quote 11-25-2010, 01:35 AM #6 ShackC View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Shut up&enjoy the ride Join Date Dec 2009 Location Northern Cali. Posts 923 Thanks  47 Thanks  13 Thanked in13 Posts Total Contributions For
ShackC     $ 0.00 I finally have mine on the road and will definitely be autoXing, ive done it in a few different cars, its a blast really makes a better driver. Last edited by ShackC; 12-03-2010 at 02:18 PM. Reply With Quote 11-25-2010, 01:36 AM #7 ShackC View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Shut up&enjoy the ride Join Date Dec 2009 Location Northern Cali. Posts 923 Thanks  47 Thanks  13 Thanked in13 Posts Total Contributions For
ShackC     $ 0.00 Just to ask it here do any of you fellow autoXers, like the prothane bushings? Reply With Quote 11-29-2010, 02:57 PM #8 Bigbacon View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Cage Fighter Join Date Jun 2010 Location Capon Bridge WV Posts 3,170 Thanks  0 Thanks  131 Thanked in124 Posts Total Contributions For
Bigbacon     $ 10.00 I finally got my MK1 out for a autoX event after spending the last 5 months getting it up to par as much as possible. I was pleasantly amazed at how well it went even though I was no where near being fast or on average even (could have been that I had a passenger) but I did improve with each run.

Car didn't give me any trouble and dished out what I gave it. Only once did it really want to kick out other wise I could get the car to the threshold and hold it there nicely. It was very easy to drive and to feel what it wanted to do and correct it.

Very different beast coming from an doing autoX in a AT Rx8 that is always firmly planted to the ground no matter what I do. Reply With Quote 11-29-2010, 06:54 PM #9 mr2nv View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Beams Owners Group Join Date Mar 2007 Location LI, NY Posts 195 Thanks  0 Thanks  10 Thanked in8 Posts Total Contributions For
mr2nv     $ 0.00 Been autocrossing for about 10 years. Car started in CSP due to headers and other stuff. Now in SSM with BEAMS swap and soon to be 2GR. First video I still have Tein Flex and second video is KW V3's with custom rates. Third video is from the 2009 Canadian MR2 Experience trackday.

MSNE AutoX @ Meadowlands, NJ

NNJR SCCA @ Meadowlands, NJ

Reply With Quote 12-02-2010, 07:39 PM #10 phillyzj View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Cage Fighter Join Date Mar 2010 Location Harford County, MD Posts 118 Thanks  0 Thanks  2 Thanked in2 Posts Total Contributions For
phillyzj     $ 0.00 would tein super street coilovers put me in a different class than factory style struts/springs? Reply With Quote 12-02-2010, 07:58 PM #11 mr2nv View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Beams Owners Group Join Date Mar 2007 Location LI, NY Posts 195 Thanks  0 Thanks  10 Thanked in8 Posts Total Contributions For
mr2nv     $ 0.00 To keep the car in stock class, you can only change struts and front swaybar. Once you go beyond that, it's straight to street prepared and beyond. Reply With Quote 12-02-2010, 10:36 PM #12 MRH View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries NEW2BOOST Join Date Jan 2009 Location Middle TN Posts 952 Thanks  75 Thanks  23 Thanked in23 Posts Total Contributions For
MRH     $ 0.00 Originally Posted by ShackC Just to ask it here do any of you fellow autoXers, like the prothane bushings? I love them.

I currently have polly Motormounts and full suspension pushings.
TRD springs over OEM struts(previous owner, about to get Tien HA's)
3" HKS cat back single exuaust. Fidanza Flywheel, Spec Stage 2 clutch. TRD short shift kit. Brass shifter bushings, and that's about it right now, running CSP in local SCCA events.

-H Reply With Quote 12-02-2010, 11:22 PM #13 phillyzj View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Cage Fighter Join Date Mar 2010 Location Harford County, MD Posts 118 Thanks  0 Thanks  2 Thanked in2 Posts Total Contributions For
phillyzj     $ 0.00 Originally Posted by mr2nv To keep the car in stock class, you can only change struts and front swaybar. Once you go beyond that, it's straight to street prepared and beyond. I'm looking at the SCCA rules: 13.5 SHOCK ABSORBERS

"3. Adjustable spring perches are allowed, but the spring loadbearing
surface must be in the same location relative to the shock mounting
points as on the standard part. Shims may be used to achieve
compliance."

that sounds like my coilovers to me

now it could be:

"4. The fully extended length must be within plus or minus one inch of
the dimension of the standard part."

I don't know the difference in lengths between the two so i can't really say.

They seem to meet the rest of the requirements defined in 13.5

Thanks for the help. i know i won't have a chance outside of stock if i try and race my NA Reply With Quote 12-03-2010, 12:15 AM #14 Levi_ View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Cage Fighter Join Date Aug 2009 Posts 161 Thanks  0 Thanks  9 Thanked in7 Posts Total Contributions For
Levi_     $ 0.00 You can't have coilovers in the stock class, only drop in shocks, must use factory springs for your year.

That being said, dont even care or worry about the classes, mod to your hearts desire and just get out there race and have fun.

Also, autox is almost all driver dependent, I'd say 85%, so modding your car really won't do as much as you think as opposed to working solely on improving your driving. I've seen a stock 370z run 2 seconds slower than this car on a 50 second course. This was taking their best times out of 4 runs that day

The UMD FSAE Car, it won SCCA nats this year so it is a stupid fast autox vehicle. Reply With Quote 12-03-2010, 01:27 PM #15 Bigbacon View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Cage Fighter Join Date Jun 2010 Location Capon Bridge WV Posts 3,170 Thanks  0 Thanks  131 Thanked in124 Posts Total Contributions For
Bigbacon     $ 10.00 the group I autoX with doesn't do the whole classes thing and it makes it a lot more enjoyable. they just use a weight system based on characteristics of the car and also have a small bore sub group for those tiny engine cars (like the mk1)

I had a great time with my MK1 on the two event i got to do this year. It was a very polished ride, it felt very good even compared to my rx8 which I normally used.

It was also a great learning experience cause I could finally get the car to some of its limits and get a feeling for what it would do under extremes. Fun to feel the car want to go all squirrly on you and then get it to right itself. Reply With Quote 12-04-2010, 02:11 PM #16 phillyzj View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Cage Fighter Join Date Mar 2010 Location Harford County, MD Posts 118 Thanks  0 Thanks  2 Thanked in2 Posts Total Contributions For
phillyzj     $ 0.00 Originally Posted by Levi_ You can't have coilovers in the stock class, only drop in shocks, must use factory springs for your year.

That being said, dont even care or worry about the classes, mod to your hearts desire and just get out there race and have fun.

Also, autox is almost all driver dependent, I'd say 85%, so modding your car really won't do as much as you think as opposed to working solely on improving your driving. I've seen a stock 370z run 2 seconds slower than this car on a 50 second course. This was taking their best times out of 4 runs that day
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3465/...ff658e94_z.jpg
The UMD FSAE Car, it won SCCA nats this year so it is a stupid fast autox vehicle. Thanks, I hope to race either way, just curious where i'll fall.

were you on the UMD team? Reply With Quote 12-05-2010, 08:02 PM #17 mr2tim View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries SUPERcharZed ToyZ RacZer Join Date Mar 2008 Location EXTREME South Florida Posts 3,277 Thanks  13 Thanks  203 Thanked in187 Posts Total Contributions For
mr2tim     $ 0.00 I'm in agreement with Levi, how well you do for the 1st few years is the drivers ability to fully utilize his car's capabilities.

Some of you may just banzai and have fun but that's cool too.

Understanding track strategy, braking zones, the 3 aspects of a proper apexs, exiting for speed etc. may come later when you take your racing more seriously looking for more speed and quicker times.

For me, walking the track,(or course), and understanding where and what I will do BEFORE I turn the key is thee most important part of my whole weekend. Once your race strategy is set, concentrating on the dynamics of the car's control is much, much easier than trying to do it all at once.

For me AutoX strategy is the most technically challenging, these races usually present many more manuvers, some of the divisional courses are truly a work of art.

By the way, car dynamics at the high speed tracks have nearly nothing to do with your experience on the street, or autocross. Be sure you and your car are prepared or you may be risking your life. Reply With Quote 12-06-2010, 12:55 AM #18 ShackC View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Shut up&enjoy the ride Join Date Dec 2009 Location Northern Cali. Posts 923 Thanks  47 Thanks  13 Thanked in13 Posts Total Contributions For
ShackC     $ 0.00 Its nice to be able to go to a track like thunder hill and have a real driver show you how its done. Advanced driving classes will get you all kinds of experince, a little pricey but well worth it, i took a few lessons at thunder hill raceway in california driving a stock 05 dodge neon. What a blast. Got that heap up to 107mph, then the stupid governor kicked in so i didn't try to go over 100 much for the rest of the day, but its so hard on a long ass straight away and thunderhill has quite a few big straights, even chicanes where you can still push hard.

Autoxing is way different than road racing except for proper cornering(road racing is just an autox course blown up to a much much larger scale thus much higher speeds, usually). Planning is the key for a good run. Like said, walking the track is a very big help. Even when a teacher has you walk in a single line the way the track should be taken. At the beginning of the season the group around here even makes a guide line for proper direction along with track setup and the nice lil walk. Last edited by ShackC; 12-06-2010 at 01:08 AM. Reply With Quote 12-09-2010, 12:09 PM #19 kbrew8991 View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage gimme some turns Join Date Apr 2006 Location Houston, TX Posts 1,759 Thanks  81 Thanks  85 Thanked in73 Posts Total Contributions For
kbrew8991     $ 0.00 if the car is street worthy just go out there and have fun - doesn't have to have any crazy mods or good tires for it to be fun either
Ken Brewer
1994 Mk2 NA Hardtop - NASA TTF, PTF, E3; SCCA STU
2010 Mazda RX8 R3 - "backup" car
2008 Tundra - tow machine for the race car Reply With Quote 12-09-2010, 09:50 PM #20 powderballz View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries i is more smart then u Join Date Oct 2007 Location Akron, OHIO Posts 362 Thanks  3 Thanks  8 Thanked in7 Posts Total Contributions For
powderballz     $ 0.00 Originally Posted by Levi_ The UMD FSAE Car, it won SCCA nats this year so it is a stupid fast autox vehicle. That driver must be one of three things;
1. Very confident that the car will not catch fire.
2. Very stupid and think that the car will never catch fire.
3. Has a HUGE pair of balls and doesn't care if it catches fire.

I've jumped out of one of our cars three times because of smoke/fire, luckily nothing major. But I would not want to think about being in one that really went up. I understand it gets incredibly hot being crammed in the car and sitting there in the suit for a couple hours, but to me that does not even come close to justifying going racing in just a tee shirt. Maybe you guys have that much confidence in the car that nothing bad will happen....but come on. It's FSAE, we all know shit happens.

You may have seen this picture, but this is justification for me to NEVER get in a FSAE car without a suit.
Dustin Z
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