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mr-355-5sfte     $ 0.00 v6 recommendations Hello everyone.... only my second post here on the forum, so I'm still searching for info.

I've been looking into this swap for a while now, I first replaced my 5sfe with a 5sfte that I had personally built... and destroyed... then decided to go with a 3sfe to get me around from school and work....
I've since replaced the engine in my subaru and now have the ability to finally "finish" my mr2. I was wondering which of the various toyota V-6 engines is the most popular swap... and by popular I mean, has been completed numerous times... many write-ups... harness diagrams...install photos..... fabrication of motor mounts (if any)...
I would love to find a 5vzfe for under $2.5k... but that's probobly not going to happen... I've since focused on the 3vzfe's and possibly the 1mzfe. has anyone here had any experience in a swap including these two engine designs?
any help on this would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance
David Reply With Quote 01-30-2006, 11:31 PM #2 mr-355-5sfte View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage soon to be "V" Join Date Jan 2006 Location Lebanon Posts 115 Thanks  0 Thanks  0 Thanked in0 Posts Total Contributions For
mr-355-5sfte     $ 0.00 Mods... disreguard this thread... actually just delete it! I scrolled down on the main board... and realized my questions have been answered numerous times!! my use of the "search" option didn't produce much... but I found what I was looking for.
thanks Reply With Quote 01-31-2006, 12:26 AM #3 canadam View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries MidshipExpress Join Date Feb 2005 Location Beautiful British Columbia Posts 11,227 Thanks  122 Thanks  173 Thanked in150 Posts Blog Entries1 Total Contributions For
canadam     $ 0.00 haha, no worries man.

Welcome to the board. Our V6 section rocks Parts for sale: German Radio Trim -- Dandism Glass -- '98+ Steering Wheel -- K-Sport Endlinks -- TRD HIDs -- TRD FPR -- and more!!!
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Reply With Quote 02-05-2006, 08:50 PM #4 mr-355-5sfte View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage soon to be "V" Join Date Jan 2006 Location Lebanon Posts 115 Thanks  0 Thanks  0 Thanked in0 Posts Total Contributions For
mr-355-5sfte     $ 0.00 I've found a 5vzfe on ebay with 79k miles that's listed as a 3vzfe.... it's only up to $510, and is about three hours away from me... the guy says he'll throw in the ecu and harness for free... so I'm hoping to bid on that mother up to $1.5k ... if it should go past that, I'm not going to be dissapointed.. there are dozens of 1mzfe's and 3vzfe's on there that are not even half that price.
unfortunately there are NO donor cars around middle TN (nashville) that I can snag... well, no manual cars. so I'm going to stick with my Jap tranny that I purchased for my 3sfe... it's an auto A241E, but it does have a full locking diff in it.... so just to clarify my options here:

my auto tranny and axles will work with any of these three v6's : 1mzfe, 3vzfe, 5vzfe... the tranny will bolt to the block (almost completely depending on the engine) and my axles will need no modification.

as for the wiring issues, will I need a dash panel with complete gauges from the v6 donor? or could I simply tap into the stock tac harness.. with it being a bit off and all...
I know I'll dispose of the 3sfe ecu, and most of it's components.... I will not have AC, cruise, or any form of forced induction... for now. so should I simply wire the v6 in the bay with it's harness and ecu, then splice my dash harness (gauge cluster: tacometer, voltage, warning lights) into the corresponding wires for the v6?? this is where I start wondering about my options.
I know I can get the engine installed and braced properly, but electronics have never been my specialty... after reading the post "why 3vzfe's are better" I feel I shouldn't get a vvt-i engine... but rather a jdm 3vzfe with no EGR system and use a USDM harness... since the ecu doesn't seem to mind that the egr is not working... at least that's what I got from the thread. that and the vvt-i's seem to throw trouble codes left and right.
so for now I'm staying with the 5vzfe unless I'm outbid... which I am expecting. so I will keep looking for a 3vzfe also.... could someone specify which models the 3vzfe's came out of?

thanks guys... sorry for the rambling! Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 12:10 AM #5 Toysrme View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Cage Fighter Join Date Oct 2005 Posts 681 Thanks  4 Thanks  24 Thanked in18 Posts Total Contributions For
Toysrme     $ 0.00 92-93 Camry / ES 300 (North America)
92-97.5 Camry (Any sold as 3.0L) / Windom (Japan / asia)
92-96 Camry (Australia) AIM/Yahoo/ICQ - Toysrme257th
PM for anything, anytime; including v6 turbos!
Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 01:00 AM #6 Oteck View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries NanoDEATH! Join Date Aug 2005 Location New Westminster B.C. Posts 6,812 Thanks  31 Thanks  288 Thanked in258 Posts Blog Entries3 Total Contributions For
Oteck     $ 15.00 well you DON"T need to mess around w/ the dash harness, the cluster lights like the oil/water connects to the rear fusebox. You'll still need the tach adapter since the signals need to be addressed. Mitch sells them...
I havent seen the plugs they used on the 5vz but having the dash harness helps out when ever you need some plugs/connectors. You'll still have to figure out your own wiring, it's not easy so get the wiring diagram and lots of time Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 01:01 AM #7 Oteck View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries NanoDEATH! Join Date Aug 2005 Location New Westminster B.C. Posts 6,812 Thanks  31 Thanks  288 Thanked in258 Posts Blog Entries3 Total Contributions For
Oteck     $ 15.00 also if your going to stick to N/A the mz are a better platform Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 01:11 AM #8 canadam View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries MidshipExpress Join Date Feb 2005 Location Beautiful British Columbia Posts 11,227 Thanks  122 Thanks  173 Thanked in150 Posts Blog Entries1 Total Contributions For
canadam     $ 0.00 Support ?

Originally Posted by Oteck also if your going to stick to N/A the mz are a better platform Parts for sale: German Radio Trim -- Dandism Glass -- '98+ Steering Wheel -- K-Sport Endlinks -- TRD HIDs -- TRD FPR -- and more!!!
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Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 02:05 AM #9 Weasy2k View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries What is an MR2? Join Date Mar 2005 Location Vancouver, BC Posts 8,873 Thanks  33 Thanks  84 Thanked in69 Posts Total Contributions For
Weasy2k     $ 0.00 Originally Posted by canadam Support ? hes correct....stock for stock that is....

Just because the mz series is a newer deisgn and have a better stock power output.

I wouldnt go as far as saying N/A PERIOD is better for MZ...cause im sure my 5vz will be having fun N/A at 7500rpm...

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Will see oteck...5vz vs 3mz once were both done Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 03:14 AM #10 canadam View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries MidshipExpress Join Date Feb 2005 Location Beautiful British Columbia Posts 11,227 Thanks  122 Thanks  173 Thanked in150 Posts Blog Entries1 Total Contributions For
canadam     $ 0.00 GR Platform is the fastesttttttttttttttt Parts for sale: German Radio Trim -- Dandism Glass -- '98+ Steering Wheel -- K-Sport Endlinks -- TRD HIDs -- TRD FPR -- and more!!!
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Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 11:21 AM #11 Weasy2k View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries What is an MR2? Join Date Mar 2005 Location Vancouver, BC Posts 8,873 Thanks  33 Thanks  84 Thanked in69 Posts Total Contributions For
Weasy2k     $ 0.00 Originally Posted by canadam GR Platform is the fastesttttttttttttttt
And it would be :P So.....Adam...


Buy your MKII.....


and roll a I350....

vy ola Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 02:15 PM #12 canadam View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries MidshipExpress Join Date Feb 2005 Location Beautiful British Columbia Posts 11,227 Thanks  122 Thanks  173 Thanked in150 Posts Blog Entries1 Total Contributions For
canadam     $ 0.00 I tihnk there's a better chance that a Rav4 will come up for salvage in my area loooooong before an IS350 ever will Parts for sale: German Radio Trim -- Dandism Glass -- '98+ Steering Wheel -- K-Sport Endlinks -- TRD HIDs -- TRD FPR -- and more!!!
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Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 08:22 PM #13 Weasy2k View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries What is an MR2? Join Date Mar 2005 Location Vancouver, BC Posts 8,873 Thanks  33 Thanks  84 Thanked in69 Posts Total Contributions For
Weasy2k     $ 0.00 why do you think i said go and roll a I350...comon Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 10:52 PM #14 mr2greasemonkey View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Once again....yups Join Date Sep 2005 Location Portland, OR Posts 1,674 Thanks  4 Thanks  66 Thanked in43 Posts Total Contributions For
mr2greasemonkey     $ 0.00 go buy a fiero, do the northstar swap. call it good, heh. Reply With Quote 02-06-2006, 11:39 PM #15 mr-355-5sfte View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage soon to be "V" Join Date Jan 2006 Location Lebanon Posts 115 Thanks  0 Thanks  0 Thanked in0 Posts Total Contributions For
mr-355-5sfte     $ 0.00 so.... I should stick with the 3vzfe!? and disreguard that 5vzfe in Ga. ok.... so will I need the tach adaptor for the 3vzfe, or just the 5vzfe ... and what models did the 3mzfe come in... so I can find a complete harness. all the engines I've found on the internet don't have complete harnesses... or an ecu.... Reply With Quote 02-07-2006, 12:42 PM #16 Weasy2k View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries What is an MR2? Join Date Mar 2005 Location Vancouver, BC Posts 8,873 Thanks  33 Thanks  84 Thanked in69 Posts Total Contributions For
Weasy2k     $ 0.00 www.v6mr2.com

all those engines are good
I like to sum it up like this
STOCK internals:
VZ series = good for boost with little to no internal mods
MZ series = a lot better to run N/A but not as good with boost

Now you choose Reply With Quote 02-07-2006, 06:41 PM #17 mr-355-5sfte View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage soon to be "V" Join Date Jan 2006 Location Lebanon Posts 115 Thanks  0 Thanks  0 Thanked in0 Posts Total Contributions For
mr-355-5sfte     $ 0.00 seems easy enough! thanks for the direct info! but believe me, I'll have many more questions soon. Reply With Quote 02-07-2006, 11:27 PM #18 Weasy2k View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries What is an MR2? Join Date Mar 2005 Location Vancouver, BC Posts 8,873 Thanks  33 Thanks  84 Thanked in69 Posts Total Contributions For
Weasy2k     $ 0.00 yea lots of work regardless of the path....mounting the engine is what everyone worries about....well theres more to it then just mounting the engine Reply With Quote 02-08-2006, 09:31 PM #19 mr-355-5sfte View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries Visit Homepage soon to be "V" Join Date Jan 2006 Location Lebanon Posts 115 Thanks  0 Thanks  0 Thanked in0 Posts Total Contributions For
mr-355-5sfte     $ 0.00 actually I'm not worried about the mounting issues.... just the wiring. making things with my hands is no problem... but I seem to have trouble with electrical components. I'm reading everything I can, but I was kind of hoping to find a "step by step" page explaining exactly what to do with the harness.... but hey, you guys have helped tremendously... and all the fsm harness diagrams are going to help with the identification of the wires... so I've got a feeling I'm going to have to do some grafting.... to what? I'm not that sure yet!! but I AM doing this build!!
thanks again guys Reply With Quote 02-09-2006, 12:09 AM #20 Oteck View Profile View Forum Posts Private Message View Blog Entries NanoDEATH! Join Date Aug 2005 Location New Westminster B.C. Posts 6,812 Thanks  31 Thanks  288 Thanked in258 Posts Blog Entries3 Total Contributions For
Oteck     $ 15.00 my tip is look at mikes 1mz to 3sgte diagram. it would give you a nice chart to follow where to hook up the lines. most are pretty basic +b goes to +b and so on till you get to the black box Reply With Quote Page 1 of 9 123456789 Last Jump to page: « Previous Thread | Next Thread » Posting Permissions You may not post new threads You may not post replies You may not post attachments You may not edit your posts   BB code is On Smilies are On [IMG] code is On [VIDEO] code is On HTML code is Off

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