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unreal06-01-2011, 09:13 PMsince my car never came with that metal muffler grill, I purchased one these..this bolts right on the rear bumper..
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http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1834/rear2j.jpg marazaii06-01-2011, 09:15 PMdude i want one! where did you get that and $$$? TAZ06-01-2011, 09:18 PMthat looks sick
set it up and lets see it! Namerif06-01-2011, 09:20 PMYa! Set it up already and quit teasing us...I actually don't like mine and plan on removing it when I get around to fixing the body up mika06-01-2011, 09:26 PMwill it fit without cutting? where did you purchase it? your better off with this, i pulled mines off. r3d.mr206-01-2011, 09:35 PMthat is smexy! canadam06-01-2011, 10:37 PMI've never seen one, definitely interesting! necolorado06-02-2011, 09:36 AMpics pics pics please :) Namerif06-02-2011, 01:41 PMOmg there still ain't pics up of this thing installed someone's llllaaaagggggiiinnngggg unreal06-02-2011, 06:46 PMsori guys im here at british columbia until next week so i wont be able to post pics till then..i will post all the info till then.. 92_mister_two06-02-2011, 07:46 PMDude that is soo badass im looking forward to you posting this :) marazaii06-03-2011, 06:36 PMwell its cool that you cant provide pics but how can we get a piece of the same goodness?! unreal06-09-2011, 09:52 PMhere ya go peeps.. http://mr2.zhutiblog.com/com/forums/mk-2-mr2-sw20/Toyota-MR2-66661-muffler-grill-review.html hmong33706-10-2011, 01:08 AMwtf?! my whole premises is to get rid of any sort of muffler grill lol. it ugli-fies the rear end so much. yet you're installing one haha. funny shhitt. unreal06-10-2011, 01:20 AMHere in Cali its hard to get around with an aftermarket exhaust, it aint fun collecting tickets, so I had to put back the stock muffler. It doesnt look right without a muffler grill so this is the next best thing.. hmong33706-10-2011, 02:36 AMpffftt... the first thing i did when i got my na was bending that ugly metal hunk of crap out of the way. i'm still rockin' a naked na muffler haha.

but i hear ya on the cali nazi crap. it's getting that way up here where i live too (ontario, canada).

goodluck Namerif06-10-2011, 03:01 AMI'm with u dude the muffler grill is a piece of shit it serves no purpose and I plan on doing away with it asap Anton8006-10-2011, 12:10 PMWhat is the actual purpose of the muffler grill?
Anton K0ukiM0n5teR06-10-2011, 12:15 PMthat is a c1 rear grill replica and it doesn't really serve any purpose besides aesthetics. RePete06-10-2011, 12:21 PMI'd like to see that mounted, it would be a first I think. Anything's better than the muffler guts spilling out. :devil: eckoman_pdx06-11-2011, 01:41 AMwtf?! my whole premises is to get rid of any sort of muffler grill lol. it ugli-fies the rear end so much. yet you're installing one haha. funny shhitt.

Though I read the thread and understand his reasoning, I'm going to have to agree. A muffler grill makes the rear end look messed up, it's the first thing which should go on a Deuce.


What is the actual purpose of the muffler grill?
Anton

It's purpose is to hide the ugly OEM muffler so that you only see the muffler tips. It's purely aesthetic. RePete06-11-2011, 09:13 AMI think it's like arguing which painting is prettier than the other. I'd rather have the exhaust come out of the bumper cover like many modern performance cars, but it's a 90s car and I'd rather have something there than exposed mechanicals.

One more thing, many mods don't overly affect the value of the car unless they're cumulative. But this sort of mod arguably devalues the car more than others at sale time because potential buyers don't want to pay $200+ to put the grill back on. Heytheremr206-11-2011, 10:49 PMwow, not bad. personally, i dont mind the oem one. i dont even notice it. but this is a nice little touch to it. canadam06-11-2011, 11:45 PMI think that the removal of the muffler grille is one of the worst thinks that people do to their car, myself. eckoman_pdx06-12-2011, 04:28 AMI think it's like arguing which painting is prettier than the other. I'd rather have the exhaust come out of the bumper cover like many modern performance cars, but it's a 90s car and I'd rather have something there than exposed mechanicals.

One more thing, many mods don't overly affect the value of the car unless they're cumulative. But this sort of mod arguably devalues the car more than others at sale time because potential buyers don't want to pay $200+ to put the grill back on.


I think that the removal of the muffler grille is one of the worst thinks that people do to their car, myself.

Cutting off the grill or bending it isn't really "exposing the mechanical's." It's not like you're leaving the valve cover off. It's done to show off good looking duel mufflers. No one spends $1000 on a Phoenix Power exhaust to not show the can's off. The whole devalue comment is relative. If you're looking for a car with a grill, you're looking for an OEM type MR2, which means an MR2 sporting a duel can exhaust like an HKS, Berk, Greddy PEX or Phoenix Power isn't what you are looking for. If you're running a Greddy SP, HKS Turbo, OEM or Fujitsubo then of course I'd expect the grill to stay. Then some exhausts like the KO R1 require the grill to be bent or cut off.

Most people who cut or bend the grill do it to show off the duel can exhausts. No one wants to spend all that $$ on a sexy exhaust and keep it hidden. If you're looking to keep the grill, you're probably looking for an OEM look exhaust and a fairly un-modded car. The grill was purely aesthetic. The whole grill agreement is like the whole lip kit/side skirt agreement. It's a to each their own thing. So like an OEM look with the grill, some prefer duel cans without it. arber021406-12-2011, 07:31 PMI think that the removal of the muffler grille is one of the worst thinks that people do to their car, myself.

I am with you on this one, i really do not like seeing the mufflers. I like it slick and simple. necolorado06-13-2011, 08:27 AMThe grill was purely atheistic.
It needs Jesus in it's life. simplesauce06-13-2011, 12:06 PMIf you have to run stock exhaust, what I done done to mine before I went HKS was paint it bbq grill black and cut the tips off about 2 inches into the bumper. Created the illusion of having no exhaust. You might wanna try this to show off your grill more. arber021406-13-2011, 12:11 PMI have a dual muffler 3 inch exhaust and i still like my grill there, just like i always wear boxers. :D tksmr206-13-2011, 02:33 PMI am with you on this one, i really do not like seeing the mufflers. I like it slick and simple.

Agreed. In fact, I have my Greddy Pex hidden by both the muffler Grill and an aeroware piece. I don't like seeing the cross member, the Y pipe between the two mufflers, and suspension arms is not really that attractive to me. eckoman_pdx06-14-2011, 06:35 PMIt needs Jesus in it's life.

Considering I was drunk at my college graduation party when I posted, that post turned out better than I thought it would have...

At any rate, the grill is purely aesthetic. It's just there for looks, to hide the ugly OEM muffler. You're exposing no mechanical components by cutting it off. As I said, most people who cut or bend the grill do it to show off the duel can exhausts. No one wants to spend all that $$ on a sexy exhaust and keep it hidden. Some single exit exhausts like the KO R1 require you to bend or cut the grill to even fit. If you're looking to keep the grill, you're probably looking for an OEM look exhaust and a fairly un-modded car. LeePeyton06-14-2011, 06:48 PMI like the grill personally. I think taking it off messes with the body lines like some lip kits. Aesthetics could be argued like this all day. Like I think most body kits don't look good on a MR2 or that the snorkel scoops look like ass. But that's some people's flavor, not my job to hate them for tidbits. It's my job to high five them for not primering the crap out of it and drilling holes in the back bumper after installing a fart can.

Back on topic, nice mod bro. eckoman_pdx06-14-2011, 06:53 PMI like the grill personally. I think taking it off messes with the body lines like some lip kits. Aesthetics could be argued like this all day. Like I think most body kits don't look good on a MR2 or that the snorkel scoops look like ass. But that's some people's flavor, not my job to hate them for tidbits. It's my job to high five them for not primering the crap out of it and drilling holes in the back bumper after installing a fart can.

Back on topic, nice mod bro.

You just admitted it's purely aesthetics...just like a lip kit, side skirt or body kit...which is what I just said.

...and I'd say a PEX, Super Duel Drager (yes, it's spelled with 1 g), R1, Departure II, Power Evo and other exhaust don't qualify as a fart can. They put down good power. Putting an exhaust on an MR2 makes good power. The OEM exhaust system is very restrictive. The b-piping section drops to below 2" at one point. An exhaust on an MR2 Turbo is good for 15-25hp on a stock car depending on the type of exhaust. That's a good power kick. That's hardly fart can status. We're not driving a 102hp Civic DX here which... arber021406-14-2011, 07:00 PMYou just admitted it's purely aesthetics...just like a lip kit, side skirt or body kit...which is what I just said.


Not true at all, how about aero dynamics?
I doubt it is pure aesthetics. eckoman_pdx06-15-2011, 02:51 AMNot true at all, how about aero dynamics?
I doubt it is pure aesthetics.

The muffler body blocks the grill 100%. The airflow hits the muffler body and goes under it. In order for the grill to direct air, air would have to flow through the solid muffler, then through the grill. The grill is their to cover up the ugly muffler body, which it directly blocks. It hangs down just low enough to block the view of the OEM muffler body, which extends the length of the grill.

Also, don't forget the grill is slotted, so air just goes right through it if it does hit it at all. It's not solid, and it directing airflow. The muffler does more airflow directing than the grill every would. The grill is 100% blocked by the muffler from front to back airflow in an OEM setup. It's not meant to be an aerodynamic piece, it's mean to cover up the ugly, unpolished, OEM muffler. The grill keeps it so only the polished tips are visible. That's it's purpose.

Don't read too much into it. It's a 100% horizontal grill. Aerodynamic pieces don't benefit from a horizontal plate blocking airflow. It would create more drag than it would aerodynamic benefit or downforce. That's probably why they slotted it, so any air which hit's it can go through it so it doesn't create drag. That way they can still have something which hides the muffler without creating excessive drag. LeePeyton06-15-2011, 03:05 AMWhat does your undying hate for the rear grill have to do with this guys nice Carbon Fiber one? All I meant by the fart can comment was we are all in this together. Do you not see how defending your "aesthetics" is just as pointless as attacking other people for their opinions. We aren't talking dyno numbers here boss. eckoman_pdx06-15-2011, 03:17 AMWhat does your undying hate for the rear grill have to do with this guys nice Carbon Fiber one? All I meant by the fart can comment was we are all in this together. Do you not see how defending your "aesthetics" is just as pointless as attacking other people for their opinions. We aren't talking dyno numbers here boss.

I'm not attacking him. Since some of you are attacking people who decide to remove the grill, I'm stating it's purely aesthetics in it's purpose on the car, therefor there is nothing wrong with removing it (or keeping it for that matter).

I 100% understand why the OP wanted to reinstall a grill. He's in California, so he wants to run an OEM exhaust and doesn't want to attract unwanted attention from the powers that be. That makes prefect sense. If you want to keep it for some other reason, that's fine too.

My point was, a lot of you are stating removing the grill "is the worst thing you can do to an MR2," that it "exposes mechanicals," and other similar statements attacking those who CHOOSE to remove it.

I'm not attacking the OP. Since people are attacking those who choose to remove it, I'm trying to prove a point. My point is, there is NOTHING wrong with him wanting to reinstall a grill or keep a grill, just as there is NOTHING wrong with someone else wanting to remove a grill.

As I said before, it's just like the old lip kit/side skirt argument. There is nothing wrong with throwing a lip some side skirts on a Deuce, just as there is nothing wrong with keeping it stock. I'm trying to make people understand that with the grill, since too many people in here are hating on those who choose to remove them. There is NOTHING wrong with wanting to keep it or install a carbon one, just as there is nothing wrong with removing it to show off an aftermarket exhaust. Sang06-15-2011, 03:35 AMMan...I did the exact opposite. I bought some c1 knock off rears some 6-7 years ago and only used the side pieces. And man have prices gone up... RePete06-15-2011, 07:58 AM...My point was, a lot of you are stating removing the grill "is the worst thing you can do to an MR2," that it "exposes mechanicals," and other similar statements attacking those who CHOOSE to remove it....I think we need to chill a bit here and reevaluate what an 'attack' is. I'm not 'attacking' anyone and don't see it in this thread either. An 'attack' interpretation is just plain wrong here - there's no aggression intended. (Attack = an attempt to cause damage or injury). Stating an opinion is not an attack, even if the majority in this thread think a certain way.

I think the OP's idea of using CF as a replacement grill is new & different considering he had little choice if he wanted his underpinnings hidden. eckoman_pdx06-16-2011, 12:58 AMI think we need to chill a bit here and reevaluate what an 'attack' is. I'm not 'attacking' anyone and don't see it in this thread either. An 'attack' interpretation is just plain wrong here - there's no aggression intended. (Attack = an attempt to cause damage or injury). Stating an opinion is not an attack, even if the majority in this thread think a certain way.

I think the OP's idea of using CF as a replacement grill is new & different considering he had little choice if he wanted his underpinnings hidden.

It's not exactly a new idea, the Shine Auto piece is a knock off of the rear center section from the old school C One kit. C One manufactured it in both fiberglass and carbon fiber. As Sang said, it's been around for ages.

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As for an attack, as I said I am simply trying to make people see there is nothing wrong with removing it or keeping it, it's "to each their own." When people start making claims that "removing the grill is the worst thing you can do," and that "it exposes the mechanicals" and other claims stating what a horrible idea removing it is, I'd consider that closed minded. It's perfectly fine for someone to want to keep the grill, remove the grill or replace it with a C One, Bomex, or knock off center section.

I'll say it again...I understand why the OP wanted to put a grill back on. There is NOTHING wrong with removing the grill, keeping it or putting on a C One, Bomex, or other replacement center grill. It's to each their own. Keeping it is not the "worst thing you can do," and removing it is not the "worst thing you can do." It's just a matter of taste. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2026 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.