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328FTW07-12-2010, 04:53 AMOk so another car to freaking bring back to standard, 1992 GT with 94+ tails in SMG. And people seem to love seeing paint and bodywork, this thing is going solid pure white, according to the paint tin that is what colour anyway.
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Bought a donor for the odd bit, badges and all that stuff
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So to start I took an alright car that looked okay then tore bits and paint off it till it looked kinda crappy. Also added a lip since it was gone. Removed glass and trim unlike my V6 I want to get all the edges this time.
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I'll try to post up some simple tips for painting as I go this time and hope no one dies or my life otherwise doesn't crash into the ground while doing this paint. Not the only way to paint a car, people all have found their own thing that works for them but this is a general start.
So to summarise what I did here removing all the trim and such is that if you just mask and edge then paint you have an edge that can peel back with the tape and is prone to chipping. Removing the trim means less fussy masking and you can sand edges so the paint sticks well and the trim covers where the paint ends on the edges and is most prone to flaking off. Also rust prevention, as you see I found rust in my quarter windows, will take me not long at all to fix with the car apart but once it is together getting rust behind something sucks especially if you find it has spread under the paint like mine has so better to fix now than pay later.
Before you start sanding take pics and print them off and mark where the major dents and dints are, once the car is matt from sanding they are harder to find, you can spot coat and long board to find them but it is still good to know where all the major focus points are. I've used 60 grit to start and really tear through the 2342 layers of old paint from all the rattle can touchups the car has had. Don't worry it you hit metal just try to get all the clearcoat and oxidised layers off. Use a good sander you will die handsanding or trying to use a small cheap sander, get a behemouth of a sander to do the major you can downsize and upgrit later, I mainly use a large random orbital hitachi sander. If you use a massive sander make sure not to burn by sitting on one spot too long which will warp large panels like say bonnets and bootlids. Welding also warps panels if you get it too hot so easy on the welds if you are filling spoiler holes.
Also while I'm laying out basics pick good paint, cheap paint is usually enamel and kinda sucks. Most good paint jobs that will turn out shiny in your garage will be a basecoat/clearcoat job using acrylic paint. Skip 2 pot with hardeners and all that jazz acrylic will do a pretty good job and is easy to work with compared to other paints and isn't badly reactive or super toxic. Note the paint code as well and keep some spare totally sealed in a small tin, it will last a while like that, at least long enough to fix mistakes. Some colour basics
Dark = Easy to see when applying, shows all your mistakes and if done wrong looks gay because it shows panel damage easy and
Light = Can be hard to see what is wet and what isn't sometimes but is forgiving for the most part and not as showy of imperfections
Bright colours = ie red and yellow are transparant so you even after applying can see undercoat if it is all blotchy not that you should be painting on blotchy undercoat anyway
Metallics = Same issues as flat colour but also the metallic flakes will show grain and stroke marks bad from the spray pattern, requires when you do your final coat to pull back and kinda do a dust coat to even out the metallic finish. Also don't wet sand and polish very well it is an uneven surface (especially with a heavy flake) so you want clearcoat over it.
Also use a heap of primer you can use it to build the surface up a little and as a buffer to the small ripples left by the spots of paint left from sanding, if you are doing a full metal respray and using etch primer god help you and good luck with that:lol:
Pick paint gun tips for your paint don't try load a heavy flake paint through a 1.4 tip gun it will not end well. There are also lots of different types of guns that are good for different reasons LVLP, HVLP, HVHP, gravity, siphon, tank/paint pot but that depends on what you have to drive it and what you are doing and what you have to spend. I have huge compressors so big siphon feeds with large tips that just lay it out work for me but you might need to ask at the store for this one I don't know what you are running it off and what you are painting (probably an mr2:rolleyes:)
Budget for sandpaper and thinners and all that junk it adds up fast to more than you think. I'm also at at home guy not a pro so my tips may not be pretty perfect but I'll try. Now someone PLEASE tell me why I took on another project:confused: (who is getting sick of them apart from me) Denz07-12-2010, 09:53 PMIf I could turn back time I would have done this. Stripping the car completely would be a lot easier
also I wouldnt have removed the strips on the side of the car eRock07-12-2010, 10:09 PMYou always seem to start project after project, and you never cease to amaze me with your attention to detail and the quality of your builds. I wish I had the time, resources, knowledge, experience, and whatever else you have (car related, lol). If I did my car would be amazing! Lmao.
Sorry if that's a little sappy, lol. I just always get hooked on your projects. mr307-12-2010, 10:40 PMWhy does that door not fit at all? There looks like a huge gap. Maybe it's the angle? 328FTW07-13-2010, 08:02 AMIf I could turn back time I would have done this. Stripping the car completely would be a lot easier
also I wouldnt have removed the strips on the side of the car
I should of done it on my V6 but didn't. Removing the rear quarter glass was a PITA since where that pillar has the weird welded up bit is a replaced window and they used strong glue took a while to get it but like anything glass you just take your time and make sure you don't let any metal lever on it.
You always seem to start project after project, and you never cease to amaze me with your attention to detail and the quality of your builds. I wish I had the time, resources, knowledge, experience, and whatever else you have (car related, lol). If I did my car would be amazing! Lmao.
Sorry if that's a little sappy, lol. I just always get hooked on your projects.
Lol thanks I put far too much time into cars, my hands never heal up. Right now I have a heart shape bit of blood under my fingernail that has been growing out for a few weeks, my cars luuuuuuuv me. I'm normally up at 10am and work way into the night then do it over it is why you get weird dark pics of testing cars at 2am, I am a neighbour from hell
Why does that door not fit at all? There looks like a huge gap. Maybe it's the angle?
That was before the fender was bolted down at the bottom. It is off the same car I got my V6 front left fender off, I put it on the shell I picked up then took it off and put it on this. My dad said I should of just fixed the paint on it but it is oxidising and flaking plus there are dents which would need colour matching just easier to do a good job and make it something nice.
I've been trying to add up how many cars I've owned in my head and I keep getting lost:lol: 328FTW07-15-2010, 05:03 AMFound rust out the ass in the quarter. Oh and the V6 is back
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Anyway it was rusting between the skins on the pillar since it had a new quarter welded on and the flux from welding sets the rust in fast that and the heat bubbles the paint leaving the steel open to the air
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The cure for rust is to get rid of it
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I brushed the hell out of it with a brush attachment on the grinder and now I'm applying blackguard to the pillar before pumping a special rust proofer in till it is running out on the ground using an old cleaning gun to mist it. Rust is evil sh** you don't want it and if you find it put the extra effort in to get rid of it or bad things can happen to your nicely painted car. 328FTW08-03-2010, 07:49 PMOk so 2 notes/ slight tips and those are do engine work before paint cause you will be leaning all over the car and rubbing the sides and to get glued badges off use fishing line.
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And I've restitched my steering wheel myself
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And using a dremel to carve out the last of my gauge pod on the broken interior bit (ashtray area might as well do something)
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Motor work before paint
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Ummmm yeah that colour is way off what I wanted but anyways the can told me lies about how it would turn out. Bit late now so it's going on. MR JAS08-04-2010, 06:18 AMfender
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The intake is going to be the same colour I'm just figuring out how to compression test it on my own. I did finish the RX7 cooling system though I want to service the carb, fill it with water and see if I can run it till it warms up given I have to pump the throttle so hard to keep it running I'm wondering if it is fuel not spark. In other news I've also figured out how to repair broken camera LCD screens by importing new screens for about $30nz from Hong Kong.
/end useless info MR JAS08-05-2010, 06:38 PMI used nail polish on the toyota letters, turquoise. Pretty manly.
The intake is going to be the same colour I'm just figuring out how to compression test it on my own. I did finish the RX7 cooling system though I want to service the carb, fill it with water and see if I can run it till it warms up given I have to pump the throttle so hard to keep it running I'm wondering if it is fuel not spark. In other news I've also figured out how to repair broken camera LCD screens by importing new screens for about $30nz from Hong Kong.
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yea i would say one of the bowls has rust in it and your only running on like one barrel
i can show you how to rebuild a holley if you want i learnt it back in the day when i went by the nickname of "mr nagato"
everyone who knew where i got the nickname is dead 328FTW08-06-2010, 12:47 AM^ I do concur and I'm pulling it down tonight.
In other news I compression tested the motor 160 165 160 90, permission to swear loudly lol. So Before I paint I'm going to pull the motor out and do rings cause I added a dab of oil and the compression shot up to 160. So before any more paint it is rebuild time for this 3sgte, new rings, new headgasket, new gaskets might do the timing belt cause it is only $30 and undecided on the waterpump but prolly should. I'll get back to painting but apparently need to do other things first. I'm just hoping it doesn't have a cracked ringland. Sh0ty08-06-2010, 02:13 AMstitched wheel looks good. 328FTW08-06-2010, 04:25 AMstitched wheel looks good.
Yeah I followed your guide but blue stitching and some aftermarket wheel not a stock one. I'm just annoyed I have to freshen the motor I went all round and no one does cheapish rings for the 3sgte it is a bit WTF cause it it a common motor and always modded and stuff. But the headgaskets are really cheap like $60 for a full regrind set with all valve guides and engine gaskets. I'll pull the motor apart this weekend and check ringlands. 328FTW08-10-2010, 08:56 AMI welcome myself to turbo sports car ownership. Motor was a bit toasted from detonation. #4 ringlands were shattered and #1 bearing was flattened out from the same thing good thing it's been caught early before it got any knock or other bad things. So I'm rebuilding it on the cheap using my contacts and spare parts. I had a new belt out back and rings installed on pistons I never used so I'm reusing them. I needed a headgasket and bearings so rung round got headgasket, all valve stem seals, all top seals, some new hoses and new bearings for $120. Pistons I had a set I got for $50 ages back I'm going to put them on the 3sgte rods after checking them all out for sizing and junk. So it is going to be another motor made from the convenient pile of parts I have. Also realised I have a spare block and crank with bearings so I can fix my racecar HIGH FIVE:lol:
On another note I compression tested the chev in the rx7 and got over 200psi on the cylinders. My dad casually said it has about 11:1 compression, the hell man it's a 1960 something motor what would you run it on back in the 70's no wonder when it was going even on 5 cylinders it could do a burnout.
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Ok there was some painting
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So sorted, over the next couple days this engine goes back together and I can finish off the filler and prime the car ready for smoothing and then the glory of new paint. I would have preferred not to go through doing the motor but for what it's costing it will give the car a few more years of life. beachbum08-18-2010, 10:18 PMI like how you take the time to take the car apart when it comes to the bodywork/paintwork. Really taping is not the way to go. So many people think that it is ok and saves time and labor. but really it just causes more headaches than anything and shows on the quality in the paint job. 328FTW08-19-2010, 06:27 AMI like how you take the time to take the car apart when it comes to the bodywork/paintwork. Really taping is not the way to go. So many people think that it is ok and saves time and labor. but really it just causes more headaches than anything and shows on the quality in the paint job.
Yeah it makes a big difference on the edges and where the paint ends you don't get edges sticking up and flaking.
And since the thread got bumped I went further than I thought with the rebuild I haven't been posting cause this is bodyshop not engine shop but I'll do one large post now since I'm almost done. I found flattened out bearings so had to do them and while I was at it decided "you know I think I'll rebuild the cylinder head" so I did gave it a light sand a cleanup in the ports to prevent carbon buildup. So many new gaskets your head would spin if you saw even the dizzy the old seal had gone as hard as biscuits and broke away so I put a new generic one on out of the set I have. Headgasket is just a composite one, reused the head bolts, polished the turbo, cleaned everything ridiculous amounts, balanced the rods and pistons. List goes on but this motor is tight. As a bonus the intake seats and valves looked machined so i measured the intake valve size and it was 34.5mm and the standard is 33.5mm I think so looks like it has 1mm oversized valves.
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I still wish you would use commas and shit though :lol: David08-19-2010, 12:15 PMHow I missed this thread for so long I'll never know. I have to get outta OT more often. :lol: muffinman08-19-2010, 12:24 PMI have to get outta OT more often. :lol:
NONSENSE!! Get back in the OT dungeon! :lol:
Nice work 328 except for the pink VC. :D 328FTW08-20-2010, 08:57 PMnice work. you''ll have to post a vid of this bad boy running when you complete it.
I will assuming it doesn't magically knock or throw a curve ball at me. I'm going to spin it on the starter on the floor before I put it in it spins freely by hand but one last check won't hurt
Can't wait !!! Nice build!!
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I would advise you to use 2k paint. Even if it is more work mixing base color and hardener it's worth it simply for the durability aspect. One spot of brake cleaner on your 1k paint job and you're farked! Other than that I bow before the masterfulness of 328ftw.
I still wish you would use commas and shit though :lol:
,,,,,,........... There that's enough to cover me for a while. 2k is evil to work with at home you need good ventilation and a good mask. I did consider it for a second cause there was a 2k "off tint" for $80 at the local mixers, a turquoise and if I asked them to metallic it for me for another $20 that would of been cool but the fumes and crap off 2k will put you in lala land:lol: Acrylic works well for this and I'll let you in on a secret I don't use brake cleaner
How I missed this thread for so long I'll never know. I have to get outta OT more often. :lol:
NONSENSE!! Get back in the OT dungeon! :lol:
Nice work 328 except for the pink VC. :D
Trolls have arrived, and I'm coming round to that cover it looks pretty cool . I'm just looking for the throttle body so I can put it back in the car today. But maybe not I still have to mount the turbo and change all the old hoses SW21T08-20-2010, 09:11 PMNice build! 328FTW08-26-2010, 09:55 AMEngine is done, time for paint now kthx.
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At least I don't have a dildo shifter.
And driving that at night was fun. No tops, no rubber seals, engine that is freshly built and making funky smells, neighbours coming out to look at what just went vroooOOOOOOM PSHT!!!!! past their house and seeing a car that is all half sanded with no lights except headlights roaring about. Would do again. muffinman08-26-2010, 11:43 AMAt least I don't have a dildo shifter.
YET! :rofl: Tjzsin4given08-26-2010, 04:48 PMHell of alot of work! 328FTW08-28-2010, 04:43 AMCars are always work, it never stops.
Progressing slowly, I'd of had the car masked today except I forgot the masking tape so used an almost empty roll. I also forgot my heavy brown packing paper roll. I use heavy packing paper to mask because it doesn't flex all over and drop flakes in your paint and you can lay it over and cut the shape you need out quite easily, hence good ol newspaper again.
I also decided to take the side strips off the car. Real PITA to do but I want the paint in everywhere. The front guard ones are screwed and glued, the door ones glued only, the rear quarter ones are bolted and screwed and you have to disassemble the interior a bit to get at the bolts. Added bonus is the side scoops then come off so I can get in there and sand them real well and shoot some good protection in behind to keep the rust at bay another 20 years (if it happens to make it another 20).
Also finished off shaving the front and took off the doorhandles. The more you get off the better, it stops flaking at the edges in the long run and it made sanding the area so much easier.
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I'm going to need more masking paper and tape......... 328FTW08-30-2010, 07:53 AMI found masking paper.........old wallpaper:lol: We had an old roll so I thought "hey I can use this", so I did. Got the car sanded off, washed it, hand sanded some junk, removed the trim glue and masked it out. Removed more trim and stuff to. Washing it I actually bought a brush to get right under the panels and the amount of brown/black water that washed out is amazing. Also sanding the panel edges by hand the previous paint job skipped this and flakes were coming off everywhere with just one wipe, the glue on the trim sucked as well, the wire wheel on the grinder was really slowing getting that junk off. So many different panel colours under the paint.
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Hopefully if I'm not too busy I'll shoot primer tomorrow. beachbum08-30-2010, 10:00 PMlove the progress. keep it up I hope to soon see a nice shiney looking mr2. what color are you going with? 328FTW08-30-2010, 10:23 PMThanks, I'm going white. Covers well, looks good and I like white mr2s. I was going to prime today but it is pouring with rain and there is water everywhere, my watertrap is filling up and there is still condensate in the lines so even though it's just primer I'll flag it till tomorrow. That and I'm working on my chopped down spoiler and I'm going to have to weld the boot carefully and then bodyfill it over. So I'll just fill my day with carving some custom foam bits and glassing them over and inserting the studs into them so I can attach to the car. I have a bunch of M6 rod, floral blocks and fibreglass so will see what I can come up with. beachbum08-30-2010, 11:53 PMYes I will agree they do look very clean and good in white. As well with the water, water is never a good thing weither primer or not and deffinetly not good in base or clear. your only asking for imperfections and issues. I'm deffinetly interested in how this spoiler is going to turn out, I saw the pics were you started to mod it. 328FTW09-01-2010, 06:15 PMStarted the spoiler and got the car primed. Floral blocks to shape the base of the spoiler. And lots of wax and grease remover to prep the car for primer. Did a spot coat in black when I was done with primer, just thinned the fan of the gun and stood back more so I got large droplets hitting the car sparsely and making a whispy blotchy coat. My new friend is a half board and various grit sandpapers.
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It lost the black today;) If I was real keen I could of laid the jet black on thick and left it all gloss black. But that is far from the white I want.
I drilled a couple holes, test mounted my spoiler. Just need to add more resin and really make it strong. Then the story on the day was wetsanding, my arms hurt from it and I'm still only two thirds done. My palm and half board are crying from how much primer I had to take back. Feels smooth though, just got to finish off sanding then wash, prime, scotch brite and shoot top coats. That is apart from welding and refinishing the bootlid holes but that is no biggie.
Then I have to put it all back together, that will take a full day
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You can never do too much sanding with some fine grits just depends on where you want to draw the line in terms of effort.
And I need bits for this I want to get it going:undecided
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I have turbo brakes for it (prolly land up on my V6 cause they roxxer), some random bits and pieces that are pretty good but the wiring is hacked, has no motor or box and needs a front end for the most part.
EDIT: Another car crashed outside the shed today, that is about the second in as many weeks. Same place as the Van that took out the powerpole last week or so ago. This time the car was fine except for a couple fencepost dings. Apparently death corner has moved. beachbum09-02-2010, 08:20 AMlookin good. I use black as a guide coat as well at work after I get done priming something. 328FTW09-02-2010, 09:11 AMlookin good. I use black as a guide coat as well at work after I get done priming something.
I used red last time. As long as you can see it and know how to use it I don't think it matters too much. The deep sanding swirls and places you dug deep really show up when you start going back through the primer. The mr2 being a curvy car doesn't lend to a full board it requires a lots of hand work. A good eye helps a lot at this point. I remember the swirls from when the primer was glossy to, helps out a lot pinpointing hollows and humps. If you have bad memory take pics and circle bad spots so you can come back later. Once you lay the gloss you will see the ripples all over if you ignored them early on.
Paint is not hard as such. You can read techniques everywhere it is just really involved and requires a good focused effort. Shooting the pant takes a few hours depending on if you clear and how many coats etc. The lead up to that is the killer or else the paint just kinda falls off in time or has lots of rainbows of reflection where the dents are.
And I never worked at a paint shop I learned from the guy next door and painting my racecars:D beachbum09-02-2010, 12:58 PMyeah I really like using the guide coat especially when painting and installing bodykits on customer cars. Most the time these bodykits need alotta work before installing them. I'm working on one today for a mx-6. but yeah I've used other colors before black is my fav though cause it stands out against the gray primer. I've been doing this for a living for the past prob about 3 years thats how I learned. Started out as a helper and worked my way up. Now I do it all from prep to paint. My favorite thing to do is color changes I get to see cars completely transform. Its good to see somebody else on here though that likes to do their own body/paint work. 328FTW09-08-2010, 07:53 AMI like doing ALL work from paint to custom headlights and engine builds. Basically if it's car related I've dabbled in it. Just wish I could figure out the goddamn oiling issue with my 3sge on meagsquirt, starting to drive me nuts.
Anyway not much to update I've been busy with family gatherings and the weather has been stormy with earthquakes making this country fall into the sea lol. I wore through quite a thick primer coat in a few places just cause this car has had so many touch up jobs and stuff the sanding ripples and layers have added up to make it quite ripply. Smooth as now by the looks in fact was going to shoot the top coats today but the sky clouded and the temps dropped then it started heading towards evening so I just messed around with my racecars.
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Just for David, MR2s can go this low. Pulled the rear springs out
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And I'm going to paint that car to but I'm thinking bright Kawasaki green:D Tjzsin4given09-08-2010, 09:01 AMWhy green? Interesting choice!!! 328FTW09-08-2010, 05:12 PMWhy green? Interesting choice!!!
Look in the background of the springless pic, see the rx7? Yeah that lol. I got given 4 litres of paint for it free cause a friend ordered Kelly Green thinking it was dark green when it is actually that colour and I want to use it on something. David09-08-2010, 07:34 PMLol S13s go lower... with springs still in them. ;) 328FTW09-09-2010, 03:24 AMWell knowing me I can make it go lower using some trickery but I just left it at that cause I was messing around trying to figure out the setup and travel available to me before I start building it up. Also let me make this troll vid
YouTube - 2JZ mr2
And once I got panels on it the car actually looked pretty good for a hack.
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Think that but BRIGHT green. And tomorrow the forecast is good so might see some paint action, we'll see. David09-09-2010, 05:09 PM:rofl: @ that video
Digging the Tom's bumper. You have Tom's sides and rear for it too? :D Tjzsin4given09-09-2010, 06:03 PMOhhhh that's the green! Nice! Archidamus-R09-09-2010, 06:30 PMSo, anyone have a particular brand of paint they've had good results with, or feel any particular loyalty to? 328FTW09-10-2010, 05:19 AM:rofl: @ that video
Digging the Tom's bumper. You have Tom's sides and rear for it too? :D
Lol nope this is my beater car imma drive it into the ground and it's Denz's bumper I'm using my frame to get the holes in the right place and stuff. On the surface it's cool but on closer inspection the fitment is rather poor, I like duraflex better than fibreglass tenfold. Here is the right hand guard to bumper and you can see the new bumper misses the body line, thinking about how to fix that or how noticeable it is if I ignore it.
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Ohhhh that's the green! Nice!
More like offensively bright and attention seeking :D
So, anyone have a particular brand of paint they've had good results with, or feel any particular loyalty to?
not 3M, this paint is reacting like nothing I've used before which is funny cause I've used this stuff with great results......before. Car was crazy overkill clean as well. Left what I've done to dry overnight and will play around a little to see if I salvage this paint or redo. I can vouch for Dulon though I don't have trouble with well mixed Dulon, well I haven't yet anyway there seems to always be a first time.
I fu**ing hate when paint decides to throw a hissy fit it just wastes so much time to fix. Especially when I've used the same type on paint on the same primer and had really good results. I can still get the bright green out though:devil::D
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Looks shiny but has little reaction spots. Luck on my side was just water getting past the watertrap on a dry day somehow. Luck not on my side it is rejecting the primer and being a right PITA and trying to drag out my time, effort and patience. I did a few test panels and they were pretty good. Whatever, higher beings decided to try make me look like a noob cause it's funnier.
So while I was bored I kicked around in the car out back and realised it really smelled so pulled up the carpets and almost died. Been sitting outside with rainwater soaking the carpet which was rotting, it is a really bad smell if you ever wondered what rotting mr2 carpet smells like. Denz09-10-2010, 06:28 AMYeah I figured itd have shit fitment, thats better that I thought tho, I half expected it just just physicaly not fit on.
Oh, and GT40 my old hood, I had to cruise around hamilton bonnet less to get that thing 328FTW09-17-2010, 02:51 AM^ Maybe I'll hack it up later :)
Anyway I got some better farging paint now. Went and got some PPG paint and it has much better pigments and colour, thought about 2k for a minute but I don't like that so much even if I can get high gloss straight outa the gun no compound. I'd of been doing more to get this done but there is a massive storm at the moment and it has kinda stopped me dead with painting or anything really it's just been horrible. Although I got the engine back in my racecar so I'm going to spend my time wiring that and then starting it up with the new turbo arrangement. beachbum09-24-2010, 08:32 AMSo, anyone have a particular brand of paint they've had good results with, or feel any particular loyalty to?
I like chromabase paint its from the dupont line up.
not 3M, this paint is reacting like nothing I've used before which is funny cause I've used this stuff with great results......before. Car was crazy overkill clean as well. Left what I've done to dry overnight and will play around a little to see if I salvage this paint or redo. I can vouch for Dulon though I don't have trouble with well mixed Dulon, well I haven't yet anyway there seems to always be a first time.
that sucks about the primer. I know how you feel when your on the last steps of getting a car finished and something goes wrong. 328FTW09-24-2010, 08:44 AMI'm optimistic, finished resanding today but we are having a hella storm here. Trees have been blown over, blew my car parts off my rack and threw a mkI bonnet around the field. Sold the old tow truck for my racecars really cheap and just before some guys got there another buyer fronted up with better cash so told them "sorry sold" so they threw stuff around then did skids in my driveway before mowing down some fresh planted trees and driving out the gate mother fu**ing **** sucking worthless whole lotta other things moronic ***s, they were quick to take to the van when I when I ran outside to kick their ass. If they had kicked my paint over or kicked the car I'd of run them off the road for it, not the kind of attitude you bring to someones place.
I dunno why I have so many adventures, for a back country shed a lot of things go down there. MR JAS09-24-2010, 05:52 PMthe meth lab theory is starting to have abit of backbone to it beachbum09-24-2010, 08:44 PMwell back country might explain the crazy stuff lol. 328FTW09-26-2010, 08:47 AMthe meth lab theory is starting to have abit of backbone to it
well back country might explain the crazy stuff lol.
They were Mexican if that counts for anything
I got some painting done today, this new paint is solid and covers so well. I painted some trim bits and got the whole car primed. Finally aftwer waiting who knows how long the argon gas for the welder has been filled so I can MIG the bootlid holes. A tractor I'm working on is parked behind it so I can't back it out to warm the panels ready for paint in the sun so it goes on nice but no matter, hopeful the weather is like it was today. The paint is still 1k acrylic but not crap this time, 2 parts 2 way thinner to 1 part paint thinning ratio but I have a BIG tip gun so what I'm doing is about 3/4 to 1 thinning ratio for the first shot and staying around there or 1 to 1 for the next shot then going 2 to one for the final coats, did a test piece like this and came out glossy from the gun no wetsanding and only minor orange peel prolly on account of the big tip gun and pretty thick paint I was laying down.
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328 is also running again but I can't set the timing right cause of the hopeless timing light so I told my dad what I want for my 21st, a big fu**ing timing light that was designed around a strobe light and causes epileptic fits. I would of forgotten it was my 21st soon but I realised that today was the 26th cause I missed the meet I wanted to do in the RX7 :mad:
As a side note I'm rebuilding tractors cause my dad dislocated his shoulder and he had some things he needed done for customers, protip don't work on tractors. One he asked me to rebuild was a perkins 3 cylinder with chrome cylinder sleeves. What happens is the sleeves wear and the lip up top breaks and they get dragged into the crank, you have no idea how many hours it took me to pick all the bits out cause being chrome they don't break, it just crushed into this weird shape that was wrapped round the rod, block and crank. The oil has also been left in so long the rocker arms are worn and I have to reface them, 2 badly burned valves and I sent the head out for skimming cause 2 cylinders were leaking into each other and took me 2 days to realise the rocker cover was red cause it was so oily and black. It puts a new meaning on lack of maintainance, my dad rebuilt the engine for him 25 years ago so respect for his skills on doing that cause this thing prolly got its last oil change then. MR JAS09-27-2010, 05:47 AMyou have a birthday?
i thought that date was just the last time you got retrofitted for modern assault capabilities 328FTW09-27-2010, 06:37 AMyou have a birthday?
i thought that date was just the last time you got retrofitted for modern assault capabilities
Well it is a maintenance update, requires lots of alcoholic solutions of varying strengths and types to determine tolerance and capabilities.
Anyways I threw some white stuff around today and made a mess kinda like an amateur porno.
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See how much better good paint is? I'm leaving it overnight then I can wet n dry and polish to get a better shine going, although it's not bad now just white isn't that deep looking so the pics kinda don't show it. I installed the mig argon gas but I was gapping piston rings and ran out of time to weld it up out back but I'm almost done with the spoiler now so it can go on once I've welded. 328FTW09-28-2010, 04:05 AMI looooooove polishing. I go a bit overboard with it at times but this time it's cause it makes it a brazillion times better. People kept coming through the shop and trying to give tips and telling me things I'm doing wrong:rolleyes: Yes cause it looks so horrid and unprofessional, most of them kept asking about clearcoat and I kept saying it's single shot paint and white isn't that deep a colour that I'd worry about it anyway, if I felt adventurous I'd of gone pearl white and done extra coats but eh it looks fine and with a good polish it won't need to be touched for a while.
I mixed the buffing compound with water in an old pan, gotta keep with my style of using whatever I have right?
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Also all the rubber bits like the side intake scoop rubbers were kinda a weird colour from age so I put tyre black on where it was needed and it makes rubber come up like new:)
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And where I've buffed looks so nice
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Car is going back together now and I've welded the bootlid ready for the spoiler to install, just got to bondo and smooth it all then paint them appropriately. Tractor should be ready soon once the head comes back so I'll get that together and take this thing for a good spin:D Also note I painted the inside of the door and stuff so it looks clean:)
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and it drives even better:D Installed rear crash bolts and set the camber up how I wanted (less than it had but the ability to mess around with it now). Painted the brakes while I was at it, lay the last of my panels out and primed then painted. Lots and lots of bondo and weld grinding to get that bootlid right, it was also a little warped from the spring thing so I bent it about and added more bondo just in case it wasn't structurally sound and the metal needed 3 inches on crap on it to hold it together or something.
This was painting the last of the panels, btw all the work to sand these down killed my arms and I still need to do under the spoiler cause there is some last touch ups I need to do with knifing compound and a little more bondo.
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The hacked spoiler mod
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And taking it for a drive
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I popped a turbo pipe off on the first go and landed up sputtering and hesitating. So after I fixed that I had another go and the fresh motor makes this thing move, the extra compression and not having a dead cylinder means it puts you back in the seat quite nicely. Gotta put the doorhandles and junk back on now. bquick22210-03-2010, 11:05 AMNice work on the spoiler! It looks great MR JAS10-04-2010, 05:53 AMid prefer white painted targa tops to be honest
also gun metal grey the door trim to break it up a little 328FTW10-04-2010, 06:08 AMid prefer white painted targa tops to be honest
also gun metal grey the door trim to break it up a little
2 thoughts I've had myself akshully. I'll take some pics in the light tomorrow when I go to harass Darren again cause I drove it home today and left the windom at the shed. I can drift it in the dry round that big roundabout in second, was impressed by the 2litre's ability to produce shenanigans with an open diff. 328FTW10-05-2010, 06:05 AMNice work on the spoiler! It looks great
Been waiting to take some pics of it all done :)
And here they are:D
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The curve of my fibreglass actually follows the car quite well and matches those side bits, looks subtle yet really nice. Been driving the car around town, got a couple comments on it even though I'm missing some trim and stuff. I even polished the reverse lights after sanding the yellowed plastic back, this thing has gone from kind of a dull potato to a very polished turd. dubmr210-05-2010, 09:22 AMsweet... Ive been following this thread just cause it cool to see some one paint their own car, but the wing turned out great, should definitely have come that way from the factory Denz10-07-2010, 04:46 AMNew exhaust and then that thing will be amazing MR JAS10-07-2010, 03:12 PMNo exhaust at all and that thing will be amazing
totally agree 328FTW10-07-2010, 03:58 PMWhat's an exhaust? muffinman10-07-2010, 04:41 PMWhat's an exhaust?
It's that thing in the frunk that you mount the turbo to. :D MR JAS10-07-2010, 06:22 PMIt's that thing in the frunk that you mount the turbo to. :D
your thinking of a 2jz... 328FTW10-08-2010, 06:06 AMYou know if I stumble on a cheap 2JZ one day that I'm going to find an old body out back and chop it up to put it in just so I can act like I'm GodKing328.
Anyways I painted stuffs and the car is all back together except for the passenger doorhandle and rear brake light I left at the shed. Repainted the ugly grey bits of the interior black and got a 5 grand cash offer about 40 minutes later which was kinda unexpected. I was doing a heap of stuff today and finished it all earlier than I thought so after it was completely back together I took it on a good drive cause I felt better if I got pulled up with a full interior rather than a ricerish gutted one.
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Added a GT badge rather than the MR2 one, undecided if I like it of just leave it off. I kinda like it though.
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Not the best photographer and the screen on my camera broked :undecided so I had no idea what I was shooting really:lol: Anyway I photochopped a few of them with fake HDR effects and made my wheels match cause it was easy while I was at it. Scrubbing the white overspray off my tyres? pffffft do I look like I want to put the effort in to make my car presentable?:D
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I need to put a farging doorhandle on and paint the wheels all black with the polished lip/blacken the tyres. Oh and mudflaps.
As an off topic rant I came close to having the front lost to a minivan today. Was driving through town to get lunch and I checked my give way side, all clear, so I continue through the roundabout and some woman looks at me and just plants it out in front of me. It has ABS so it just stops dead when I stand on the picks. However never being one to just calmly drive off I lay on the horn then light it up in first gear and roar off then turn just in time to see a cop was filling up at the station next to me, oops:lol: necolorado03-07-2011, 01:41 PMlookin good 328FTW03-07-2011, 07:42 PMHoly thread revival batman.
Car is for sale now
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Toyota MR2 1992 for sale - TradeMe.co.nz - New Zealand (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=352315336)
I finished off a set of gauges where the ashtray used to be and stuff. Going to buy some hoses to finish wire tucking it and it'll be totally done.:) necolorado03-07-2011, 07:44 PMhaha I bump threads, it happens when I'm bored at work... Oteck03-07-2011, 08:12 PMnice mk1 you got thar Tjzsin4given04-26-2011, 01:23 PMhaha I bump threads, it happens when I'm bored at work...
ME 2 shadjedi05-11-2011, 04:02 PMgreat job! yet now i know how much work i have to do on mine :/ Tjzsin4given05-11-2011, 11:17 PMNice 328FTW05-12-2011, 12:19 AMStill for sale cause everyone wants to trade riceboxes. Might trade it for a V8 tank on the weekend, we'll see. tiguy9907-21-2011, 04:27 PMAfter all that work, why are you selling the car? 328FTW07-21-2011, 10:13 PMAfter all that work, why are you selling the car?
Lol I already sold it. I enjoy fixing cars and doing things like this and I already had heaps of mr2s. And I did get the V8 :p
I've painted an MR2 before and it came out quite stunning
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/328FTW/Paint%20Project/005-4.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/328FTW/Paint%20Project/006-3.jpg
http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/ff323/328FTW/DSCF4591.jpg
I'm keeping that one though. MR JAS07-22-2011, 01:08 AMthe paint may have come out stunning (black) but do tell what condition its in now 328FTW07-22-2011, 01:13 AMthe paint may have come out stunning (black) but do tell what condition its in now
Not bad since I put the new bumper on actually, the back bumper looks shit though cause about 3 people have backed into it. It's a retard magnet. Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2026 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.
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