View Full Version : Toyota MR2 vs Porsche 911T
Tjzsin4given06-11-2010, 08:41 AMHere is a video of a Porsche 911T and an MR2 Gen2 racing/dragging on some back streets.i know this is an old one but let's discuss it!
YouTube - Toyota MR2 vs Porsche 911T
Do you guys think he put allot of work into that MR2?
i wanna see specs and hear possibilities! Tjzsin4given06-15-2010, 06:43 AMhere are some numbers:
07 911T. * * * *95 MR2
Awd. * * * * * * * Rwd.
480hp. * * * * * *241hp
457tq. * * * * * *228tq
3,494lbs. * * * *2,657lbs.
39%Front. * * * 42%Front
3.6L. * * * * * * * 2.0L*
V6. * * * * * * * * 4cylinder
6G Prpm * * * * *6G Prpm
1.9G TQrpm * * 3.4G TQrpm
6.75G redline * 7G redline
but idk if that's an 07" 911T GENESIS06-17-2010, 04:17 PMThat's a B.S. race .We all know that the Porsche has more potential than the mr2,The 911T is better in every-way,Quality,engineering,design,metal,paint,Porsche is Porsche there's no substitute. Tjzsin4given06-17-2010, 04:25 PMTrue but bit if the 2 us modified right! So what do you think it would take to have this guys MR2 beating the 911T GENESIS06-17-2010, 04:33 PMhere are some numbers:
07 911T. * * * *95 MR2
Awd. * * * * * * * Rwd.
480hp. * * * * * *241hp
457tq. * * * * * *228tq
3,494lbs. * * * *2,657lbs.
39%Front. * * * 42%Front
3.6L. * * * * * * * 2.0L*
V6. * * * * * * * * 4cylinder
6G Prpm * * * * *6G Prpm
1.9G TQrpm * * 3.4G TQrpm
6.75G redline * 7G redline
but idk if that's an 07" 911T
Assuming its the 996 Turbo (20002004):
all wheel drive
3.6L flat 6 with 420 PS[16] (309 kW) w/x50 package would accelerate it from 0-60 in 3.8 seconds.
A turbo s is edition would give it 450ps and 457 ft-ibs of torque with a top speed of 189mph.
So clearly this is B.S. in real life situation its probably not a real turbo but even then the mr2 turbo will need some serious modification to beat a standard 977 carrera, because a BASIC carrera will accelerate from 0-60 in 4.7sec w/top speed of 180mph and has 345hp.
A carrera S will do 0-60 in 4.5 sec on 385hp motor on manual not even PDK and top speed of 188mph.
Yeah you can fix up an mr2 turbo to beat a 911 in power but what happens when you fix up a 911? Tjzsin4given06-17-2010, 04:37 PMVery good point but how many people will fix up a car that don't need to be fixed and cost more than enough! GENESIS06-17-2010, 04:54 PMTrue but bit if the 2 us modified right! So what do you think it would take to have this guys MR2 beating the 911T
My friend everything can be done with money but to answer your question (Allot) is the answer .I'm an mr2 fan and a Porsche fan also so I'm not favoring any sides.
Back to your question An mr2 would need:
1.Bigger (motor) with better turbo to even the playing field
2.Double wish bone suspension to atleast go against the 911 suspension & PASM Technology(Porsche Active Suspension Management)
3.wider rims and tires from the factory
4.you can be a good driver but on paper you need(traction control system) to go against the 911t Pasm and all-wheeldrive traction.
5.Canards or something to increase down force the 911 has better high speed and over all stability
6.Polyurethane engine mounts to go agains Porsche's (Dynamic Engine Mount System)to make it short Porsche's hydro mounts can be activated in acceleration prevent wheel hop.But the hydro mounts is much more than that go to the Porsche's website to learn more.
7.last but not least and this should be the first,You need a very talented driver much more than the guy who's driving the 911t Porsche,that can mean victory! GENESIS06-17-2010, 05:10 PMVery good point but how many people will fix up a car that don't need to be fixed and cost more than enough!
Well your right in a way, you can't compare apple and oranges it like comparing a 91 na to a 91t.Its always going to be a loose loose situation with the Porsche owner,If a 911 beats an mr2 owner no one will care so why try,If an mr2 owner beats a 911 in the mountains or track everyone is happy! but in real life the guy on the 911 probably was holding back and doesn't want to risk crashing a car that cost 20x as much as an mr2 or maybe wasn't even trying to race,or maybe the guy on the 911 doesn't want to pay for new Michelin pilot cup tires.
That's the only bad thing about being a Porsche owner,no one gives you the credit you deserve so why bother trying to race anyone.Also if you notice 911 owners they don't try to race anyone in the freeway because their not insecure like many others.They will only race someone in their caliber to get credit or take it in the track. Tjzsin4given06-17-2010, 05:44 PMLmfao! Wow that was funny, but true. LeePeyton06-17-2010, 05:49 PMWhile we are at it lets compare my Smokey and the Bandit Trans-Am to a Lamborghini Diablo. I love my 2, they have a place and with lots of work it would hang with a newer 911 but well, the truth is the truth kids. God forbid modifications are on the 911, I'm not a Porsche fan by any stretch of the imagination. But I'll gladly say it's got better design for that bigger price tag. GENESIS06-17-2010, 06:16 PMAt my current situation I can't get a 911 yet so I will be happy ounce I get my gen 3 3sgte, up the boost to make somewhere past 300hp that way I can keep up with the stock 911's before it stretches its legs. GENESIS06-17-2010, 06:31 PMLmfao! Wow that was funny, but true.
I have owned a miata before and also a miata fan, but you know what's even funnier is the whole miata community thinks that the miata is the best handling car in the world because its light weight,And that's the only thing they can talk about,Miata owners can never admit that you can buy two miatas for a dollar and get the 3rd one for half off.
Every miata meet I go to their always talking crap about Mr2 or Porsche,Lambo,Ferrari.I realize allot of miata owners are delusional so I stop going to meets.In my opinion miata is a great handling car but there are other cars with better suspension geometry,Weight is an advantage but not a factor.I'm glad that there's still honest people in this forum. Tjzsin4given06-18-2010, 02:05 AMI know exactly what you mean. I know the MR2 has it's limits I just think it has a lot more potential than many cars. I wish I could get the right suspenion to make it feel more comfortable. Another thing is that the car is so rare that many people don't know what to expect from it so it's a sleeper sometimes.
I don't think it's possible for a stock 3SGTE to beat an 07 911T! The MR2 is probably kicking out close to 300 HP! In his engine bay you will see a bigger turbo, an Aftermarket Fuel Pressure regulator (which means he has bigger injectors as well and maybe an Aftermarket EMS). He has hoses tapped in to the throttle body which could be water/meth injection. Based on these mods his power could be anywhere along 300 hp easy! I have these same mods in my car and it touches 300whp at 14 psi. And no 300 is not enough to mess with an 07 911t. As a matter of fact the porsche is not an 07 I can tell by the lights that it's probably an 2002. And last but not least the driver sucks! He is getting beat of the line everytime. Yes the MR2 has a great lauch we all know this, but the awd 911 should be better off the line!
Excuse any typos I didn't re-read this yet GENESIS06-18-2010, 04:27 AMOf courses there's no way to beat a 911 turbo,I was saying maybe with somewhere over 300hp I keep up with the (standard) 911's before it stretches it legs.I have never owned a stock 91t before but I have had a tuned stroker 455rwhp mk2 before and I was killing standard 911's every time a had the chance and even beaten some 996 turbos before in rolling accelerations,but that's after thousands of dollars in the motor and many dyno tuning and a decent weight reduction.The problem I had with my 455hp mr2 was reliability and traction unlike the well balanced 911T.
If you want good handling best thing is not to lower the car but the get adjustable shocks and bracing,its not good to lower a McPherson strut design suspension it has an affect on camber and roll center weight transfer.
My next car should be a Cayman S if I could ever save my money. Tjzsin4given06-18-2010, 07:30 AM:omg:455:shocked:
that's great I don't really want that much power. Unless I can harness it as a d'd!
I did learn that lowering the MR2 for better handling is not really a good idea, but good suspension will make it feel great. It's already hard enough to get a jack under my to!
In my opinion if I can find a way to make the 2 handle like a Porsche I could beat one on a track! GENESIS06-18-2010, 05:44 PM455 was too much bro that's what I learned,It wasn't a DD too.For me anything past 325whp too much as a DD.A daily driver should be like 200-280whp.A 455whp was so high maintenance every time I tracked it I would always stretch my exhaust bolts and get boost leak even with arp studs,A bunch of little issues like throwout bearing wear,cooling problems.
If the mr2 came in Double wishbone suspension then problems would be solved, Right now I'm stuck with a 2.2L na I would be happier if it came as a 2.4L from the factory like the ka24de or maybe even a 3.0v6 and turbo it.The mk2 should have had a forged 16x7 and 16x8 as a factory wheel option,but no they want the dinky 14's with minimal tire selection. numba1rolla07-09-2011, 05:50 PMMy friend just beat a 996t like in the video but he was in his evo. He has a stock motor and stock turbo but full bolt-ons. The 996t was a automatic and that year didn't have launch control. They did a dig and roll and evo won both. Not by much the. And I know that evo don't have more than 380hp. wagonis07-09-2011, 06:25 PMHoly old thread batman! :D
Keep in mind that many races depend on the driver. The right car with the wrong driver could easily lose a race. Smurfcrusher07-09-2011, 10:27 PM"Yeah you can fix up an mr2 turbo to beat a 911 in power but what happens when you fix up a 911?"
you declare bankruptcy Shady07-14-2011, 05:28 AMEither that 911 driver really sux at driving or that MR2 is really packing some serious heat!! Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2026 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.
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