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psuPbikeRider8805-28-2009, 01:44 PMHey, does anyone know of a site to get toda racing parts (internals and such) in the US for the beams motor? Thanks Celica RA4505-28-2009, 02:56 PMi can get them here ,what are you after psuPbikeRider8805-28-2009, 03:10 PMI really just wanted to look into prices and such. do they have a lightened flywheel to fit the beams motor? MANDALAY05-28-2009, 05:52 PM^ yes i have one on mine mr2mkii05-28-2009, 08:46 PMI really just wanted to look into prices and such. do they have a lightened flywheel to fit the beams motor?

depending on the transmission you are using you can buy any 5s of 3sgte lightened flywheel

if you are using the mr2 NA (or standard beams tranny) you can buy any 5sfe (mr2 NA) lightened flywheel

if you are using the turbo lsd transmission you can use any 3sgte lightened flywheel...

I tried both and they work just fine DCKilla05-28-2009, 11:39 PMdepending on the transmission you are using you can buy any 5s of 3sgte lightened flywheel

if you are using the mr2 NA (or standard beams tranny) you can buy any 5sfe (mr2 NA) lightened flywheel

if you are using the turbo lsd transmission you can use any 3sgte lightened flywheel...

I tried both and they work just fine

I thought that the 5s flywheel had a different bolt patern. I guess I was wrong. Thanks for the info. psuPbikeRider8805-28-2009, 11:50 PMcool, My car uses the lsd tranny, so i guess ill look for a 3sgte flywheel... does the same go for the clutch? puretone05-29-2009, 02:14 AMcool, My car uses the lsd tranny, so i guess ill look for a 3sgte flywheel... does the same go for the clutch?


You need the 5sfe disc, it has the correct spline size for your gearbox assuming our using the s54, so I am using:
3SGTE Turbo Lightweight flywheel
3SGTE Turbo Pressure Plate
OEM Toyota Beams Clutch disc(or any other 5sfe disc stock or aftermarket)

&

option 1:
Pressure plate, flywheel from 3sgte
disc and throw our bearing from 5sfe

option 2: would be to call a clutch manufacture and have them sell you a 3sgte pressure plate, 3sgte flywheel, and custom make a clutch plate and what your going to want to ask for is for them to take a 3sgte disc and mate it to 5sfe splines so you get the larger surface area of the 3sgte disc with 5sfe compatibility. DCKilla05-29-2009, 08:34 AMI was going the same route with the 3sgte flywheel and pressure plate, 5sfe clutch disk, and s54 tranny. I almost got spooked for a minute thinking I asked for the wrong parts. psuPbikeRider8805-29-2009, 06:10 PMwhat do you guys suggest as far as valve springs go? I'm looking for something that is a little bit stiffer than stock, but i dont want anything crazy that is going to beat the hell out of the valves and seats over time. Thanks psuPbikeRider8808-16-2009, 02:14 PMOk, I just wanted to clear up some info on the whole flywheel subject for the beams motor. Rather than start a new thread, I figured I'd just bring this one back. I have found that the retop that came in my car was origionally a beams mr2 motor. It has the little block off plate where the celica altenator would go, etc. I have 2 questions...
1) Is there a way to verify by the serial number or some sort of ID number on the trans that it actually is the beams tranny?
2) Do I need to upgrade the clutch as well, or can I just stick to getting a flywheel? My clutch is in good shape, and im not a fan of the feel that you get from an aftermarket clutch.
thanks for all the help guys mr2mkii08-16-2009, 02:17 PMOk, I just wanted to clear up some info on the whole flywheel subject for the beams motor. Rather than start a new thread, I figured I'd just bring this one back. I have found that the retop that came in my car was origionally a beams mr2 motor. It has the little block off plate where the celica altenator would go, etc. I have 3 questions...
1) Is there a way to verify by the serial number or some sort of ID number on the trans that it actually is the beams tranny?
2) What aftermarket flywheels can I get that will fit my motor/trans combo?
3) Do I need to upgrade the clutch as well, or can I just stick to getting a flywheel? My clutch is in good shape, and im not a fan of the feel that you get from an aftermarket clutch.
thanks for all the help guys

you can use both 3sgte and 5sfe flywheel (stock or aftermarket) without any problem, I used both during the last 3 years

same for clutch, it only depends on the transmission and flywheel you are using

example if you use a 5sfe flywheel you need to use a 5sfe clutch kit
if you use a 3sgte flywheel you can use a 3sgte clutch kit OR 5sfe clutch disc with a 3sgte pressure plate and 3sgte flywheel...

flywheel and clutch can be mixed but clutch disc need to be the same as the transmission you are using (input shaft is not the same depending on the transmission)

concerning the clutch if yours is in good shape and you drive normally, keep your clutch and that's it psuPbikeRider8808-16-2009, 02:29 PMso if I keep my clutch and am just looking to upgrade the flywheel, I am looking for a 5sfe flywheel? (assuming my trans is the beams trans) mr2mkii08-16-2009, 02:31 PMso if I keep my clutch and am just looking to upgrade the flywheel, I am looking for a 5sfe flywheel? (assuming my trans is the beams trans)
yes if you keep your clutch make sure your transmission is a s54 (all year non-turbo mr2 or beams tranny) and then buy a 5sfe flywheel psuPbikeRider8808-16-2009, 02:35 PMok, cool. Now is there a special code or anything in the I.D. / serial number that will tell me if it is an s54? puretone08-17-2009, 02:18 PMok, cool. Now is there a special code or anything in the I.D. / serial number that will tell me if it is an s54?

If you have the VIN plate of the car the BEAMS engine came from then it will say it on there. Mine was ST202-blablabla Super White bla bla M/T Trans. Code S54 Aisin or some crap.
It says it on the tranny on one of the sides as well, pretty big letters "S54" or E153 if its the turbo tranny....but I doubt that you will have the turbo tranny... psuPbikeRider8808-18-2009, 09:27 PMOk, I took a breif look at the tranny today, and could not see anything on it. Is it written on it, or "engraved?" (for lack of a better term) Where abouts on the tranny is it? Ill have to take a closer look at it tomorrow. thanks puretone08-19-2009, 05:46 PMOk, I took a breif look at the tranny today, and could not see anything on it. Is it written on it, or "engraved?" (for lack of a better term) Where abouts on the tranny is it? Ill have to take a closer look at it tomorrow. thanks

I think the word you are looking for is "stamped"
I have a pic some place with where it is, I never looked myself, but I'm sure it's there. I've seem some tranny's at the Toyota dealer & could clearly make out a stamping of numbers on it....
It might indeed be in some awkward place only small asian folks can get to....Anyone chime in on this? Location of model/code on transmission? puretone08-19-2009, 05:56 PMSomething like this: psuPbikeRider8811-23-2009, 02:24 PMok, my trans definately does not have a plate like that on it. After cleaning it up a litle bit i found the number 71210039 stamped into it right on top along the "lip" of the tranny right where it bolts to the motor. It also has the number 51 written on it in pink marker, although im sure thats just from some motor shop that had it at some point. Other than that I see no other markings on the trans, and i have looked a few times. I noticed that when I look into the part where the axles go that I cannot see through it. There is some sort of metal thing going straight across it. Any Ideas? I really want to get this figured out so I can order a flywheel and get my car running this winter when I'm on break. Thanks!

p.s. Could I tell somehow by looking at the clutch? puretone11-24-2009, 06:35 PMHey, does anyone know of a site to get toda racing parts (internals and such) in the US for the beams motor? Thanks

put your flame suit on!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




TODA Racing USA - MISANO Motor Sports (http://www.todaracingusa.com/)
TODA Racing USA - MISANO Motor Sports (http://www.todaracingusa.com/)
TODA Racing USA - MISANO Motor Sports (http://www.todaracingusa.com/) psuPbikeRider8811-27-2009, 05:16 PMcan anyone help me out with the tranny identification situation? puretone11-27-2009, 06:12 PMcan anyone help me out with the tranny identification situation?


check for plastic surgery evidence, maybe if you can score some DNA material, tho it's expensive but it will deffo guarantee if you have a tranny or not. Servin11-28-2009, 11:20 PMCan you post a picture of the tranny, Ill be able to tell if its a E153 or S54.


Also good luck on a Toda flywheel, its $1k and you have to get the Toda pressure plate to fit it(More $$). The cheapest lightened flywheel i could was a Jun one which cost me $500 shipped. MANDALAY11-29-2009, 09:48 AM? cant remember exactly but paid around $540 Aussie for mine.
Didnt need a special pressure plate. psuPbikeRider8811-29-2009, 06:51 PMOh i was actually going to go with the fidanza flywheel. They're around 300 USD. As far as the picture goes, ill try and get my dad to take one (as im back at school to finish up the semester). BonzaiCelica12-25-2009, 10:52 PMThe c-one timing belt will fit the 4th gen 3sge Beams Redtop right? And where do you buy that from.

I was also wondering if the Toda Timing Belt will fit the 3sge Redtop?
Toda - High Power Timing Belt - Nengun Performance (http://www.nengun.com/toda/high-power-timing-belt)

And how about these toda cam gears, Is it worth getting them or just staying with the stock 4th gen 3sge beams redtop cam gears.

Toda - Adjustable Cam Pulleys - Nengun Performance (http://www.nengun.com/toda/adjustable-cam-pulleys)[/quote] MANDALAY12-26-2009, 12:05 AMIishi on MR2 OC has one for sale, he bought it by accident.
Stick to OEM gears. If you really want to get more out of the Red Top N/A you better seek the advise of GLEN and be prepared to spend a lot of $.
Firstly on the list is an ECU > $3600 for all the things you need. Sorry but there is no cheap way out BonzaiCelica12-26-2009, 06:57 AMyes I message Glenn about 2 days ago but he has yet to respond. how about the toda timing belt. Will that work on the redtop and Where can I buy the c-one timing belt? MANDALAY12-26-2009, 01:15 PMyes I message Glenn about 2 days ago but he has yet to respond. how about the toda timing belt. Will that work on the redtop and Where can I buy the c-one timing belt?

I answered above iishsi on MR2 OC.
Factory cams are ok why change them ? You have VVTi . Dont get it.
Most of that stuff is for dissabled VVTi , but why do it.
Let me save you the trouble . Enjoy her as she is or be prepared to spend around $25,000 on an engine rebuild to get more out of your BEAMS in a NON FI setup.
remachine head,block
pistons
rods
studs
cams,buckets,,valves,springs
ITB's
fuel
ECU
replace , pump oil .water
gaskey kit
bearings
installation $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
etc,etc
Im very sure you wont do it. Leave her as she is.
Since you like Celica's wait till the arrival of the new one.
I for one , if i knew a new MR2 was going to come would have left her as she was. MANDALAY12-26-2009, 01:23 PMI would however do little things like, lightened flywheel, high flow cat and ECU with dyno time. Do them first and if then you want to go for it do so.
Just be prepared only for those items to have a lazy > $6,000 hanging around.
THEY SHOULD be the first items on your list not belts, cam gears, camshafts etc BonzaiCelica12-26-2009, 03:58 PMya thats what I was thinking. Ok lets say i got a front redtop beams clip for $3000. You say another $15,000 in parts. I also do not plan on getting ITB's they are way to loud and annoying. I think you've talked me out of spending that much on the engine for now. But if I do decide to go forth with a complete engine rebuild, without the itb's that wont be for another 2 years.

And I dont really like the idea of a subaru engine in a toyota vehicle!

So Ill probably stick to what you said at first by getting a lightweight flywheel, intake, c-one aluminum crankshaft pulley, c-one timnig belt, c-one ecu and quite possibly a remake of pheonix's header. MANDALAY12-26-2009, 04:21 PMLeave oem crankshaft pulley ( it has a balancer )
Leave air intake ( nothing wrong )
Leave headers ( nothing wrong )
c-one timing belt why ?
c-one ecu why better LINK.AUTRONIC, MOTEC

Limit yourself to just flywheel.
When you get an engine lust put it in . If you start to dissmantle you will need a LOT of other items and work to be done which will cost you more than the motor itself BonzaiCelica12-26-2009, 04:41 PMoem cranshaft pulley has a balancer? well if i get a c-one aluminum pulley wont it help turn the motor faster and complement the lightweight flywheel even more?

Phenoix header just has a better/cleaner look to it. thats all! Just look at maikl engine bay it looks so Good!! I also threw away my stock oem filter box that goes inside of the fender and an aftermarket intake looks better. And yes I know that an intake will not give me any hp.

I said c-one becuase they made up specifically for the st202 with beams redtop thats why! so it must be better right?
C-one timing belt for better engine tuning and longer lasting timing belt??

Would you suggest I get a standalone ecu or piggyback. I would like the engine to rev to 8k.

how about aftermarket spark plugs. TRD, NGK irdium, HKS?? MANDALAY12-26-2009, 05:47 PMNo , dont muck around what Yamaha designed . Even my SC crank pulley has the balancer and wasnt going to change unless it had it
Well you wont ne able to use shields
Most that have had problems relate to not using the OEM air box. 99% sure you will have the same problems. Gee inm still going to use my air box intack minus the MAF.
oem belt is fine why pay triple the amount for nothing. Change 100,000 kms by then you will drop the engine to do other things or sooner if you decide to burn your clutch
Stand alone always. You would be game to rev to 8,000 rpm on a used engine without knowing whats its been through . Which would mean taking it apart - greater cost and head aches
Spark plugs are fine leave the platinum in. Only change if going FI.

Honest advise is the best, might like the answers but thats my opinion.
I learnt that at a younger age.
In actual fact i became the Australasian car audio champion because i listened to the best and he is in your home town Orange County
Eric Holoway SPEAKER WORKS and i never looked back BonzaiCelica12-26-2009, 06:31 PMhold on so let me see if I understand what your saying. yamaha made the head design on the 3sge not the block. So I still can't change out the crankshaft pulley :(

I want to go with an aftermarket short ram intake to make the engine sound nicer and I will also be using the maf sensor in the piping. Ill try to find a sard filter or get an hks adapter to make the intake.

So your saying that it is possible to make the engine rev to 7,500 with a stand alone ecu? But at the same time I shouldnt do it becuase I do not know what the engine has been through? how much does those ecu that you listed cost? how much for a tune $1,000? MANDALAY12-26-2009, 09:06 PMYamaha engine look at the sticker.
Ram if you like nut i reckon you will have idle issues.
$1000 will get you wont get even a look at the ones i mentioned maybe wiring.
I think you better just stick to the stock item.
Better ask when you have another 0 at the end RST12-27-2009, 02:02 AMYou can get some reasonable results with bolt on parts if you're careful...

Link ECU + conversion to MAP (get rid of the MAF)
SARD induction kit
Blue Flame exhaust and de-cat pipe
C-One flywheel (lighter of the two)
Helix stage 1 uprated clutch

...they're all straight off the shelf items (you can yahoo the prices). And you need a good mapper, but you can't buy one of them. Someone else made one, you have to find them and track them down. BonzaiCelica12-27-2009, 05:43 PMYamaha engine look at the sticker.
Ram if you like nut i reckon you will have idle issues.
$1000 will get you wont get even a look at the ones i mentioned maybe wiring.
I think you better just stick to the stock item.
Better ask when you have another 0 at the end

Idle issues really but maikl did it and it worked out for him right! Doesnt he have one of the highest whp from all beams redtop engines.

what does that mean? $1000 will get you wont get even a look at the ones i mentioned maybe wiring? Just can understand what you mean sometimes, our english is a bit different. I'm not trying to be rude or anything; and yes, I know my grammar isnt the best.

I can have wiring sent to dr tweak, he charges $300-400 if i send in my original wiring harness along with the beams harness. I thought the swap wasnt going to be this hard! Well which one is more efficient MAP or MAF

I will most likely stick to what you said RST! Would it be a good idea to get an engine gasket kit? I should only buy it if the engine has a lot of miles on it, right? MANDALAY12-27-2009, 07:37 PMYes thats wiring just for a beams conversion, Wiring for a Stand alone is different and all the ither things to make the ecu work.
You have to run MAF on the OEM ECU .
Thats why if you dont get the air intake pipe right you will have issues/ Ild contavt mr220 v For piping info as he has done it right and can also do wiring
RST is correct and thats what i suggested, but all the ECU work will have yo run up to at least $4000 or moret
then add all the other things
My 2 cents i wouldnt open the engine unless your prepared to do a lot of things, pumps gaskets etc
Gaskets are around $400 BonzaiCelica12-28-2009, 03:06 AMOk I will contact mr220 v for information about the intake. Hmm I wonder if he did maikl intake piping as well? Does mr220 v also do wiring for stand alone ecu and piggbacks?

Really that much $4,000 for a stand alone ecu including the tune no way! how about if i know somebody. You think it would be around $2500 for stand alone ecu plus tune? how much does that motec or link ecu cost?

Hopefully I get lucky with a full front clip from a celica that has the beams with helical lsd. All 3sge beams redtop that were put in celica's came with helical lsd right? I was reading that some ss-II celica came with viscious lsd on the beams??

how does this set-up sound :

-power enterprise Camcom ecu, Greddy E-manage or Greddy V-Manage piggy back ecu? which one is best?
-Short ram intake (with the help of mr220v for piping specs)
-HKS Hi Power Exhaust Silent (65 mm piping) and De-Cat Pipe
-Custom made header that has the same piping design as original header (just so I have a clean looking header like one that maikl has in gold color!)
-C One flywheel and aluminum crank pulley?? MANDALAY12-28-2009, 06:08 AM? Contact mr220v
All those ECU'S i mentioned ARE AROUND $3000 then add tuning , wiring, sensors , vvti enable etc your well over $4000.
Option LSD if your lucky.
CamCon forget as running stand alone.
Greddy im positive cant do VVTi
Piggy back forget
Short ram up to you just dont want to say i told you so
Exhaust up to you
DE CAT are you crazy ! california good luck
C-one flywheel ok
Crank leave it alone MANDALAY12-28-2009, 06:39 AMInteresting MoTec is dearer there in the States . Well its Australian.
Never come accross this situation where its dearer in the States BonzaiCelica12-28-2009, 12:05 PMhey! why is it that you dont want me to get an c-one ecu especially since its cheaper than the motec or link's?? Is it becuase the c-one is in japanese?? Actually greddy can do vvt-i atleast thats what it says here: Trust - Greddy - V-Manage - Nengun Performance (http://www.nengun.com/trust-greddy/v-manage). Whats wrong with a piggyback? Piggybacks are only for minor bolt-ons mods right?

I think from reading around about aluminum crankshaft pulley you save about 3 lb in weight from the stock one and some pulley are actually smaller than stock. So now I can see as to why I might have idle problems.

De cat in CA haha why not. I mean c'mon now, Im doing an engine swap that wasnt even legalized in the U.S. Do you really think that I can pass smog with the current high flow cat that I have and the 3sge beams swap. I know that vvt-i helps cut down on emissions but I highly doubt that I will pass smog even if I do have a catalytic converter and everything on the beams redtop is stock. MANDALAY12-28-2009, 03:51 PMThis is a quote from their website "Please note In order for us to send a C ONE CPU your orginal CPU has to be sent us. This is a exhange CPU program. "
so you cant control.
Greedy is on off for Hondas not variable
Swap is legal in certain states as long as stock.
That means your car is not registable. You have to change everything back every year.
If you get pulled of the road with an illegal swap is one thing but if you have no cats your in the highest catagory fines > $10,000.

AND if you were involved in an accident i would throw the book at you.

I think you should read up on balancers and their functions.

I think you should just see if you can get an engine first and get it running and worry about everything later. BonzaiCelica12-28-2009, 07:02 PMan exchange cpu program what the hell are they going to do with redtop ecu. get money for it c'mon! really? the engine and ecu are over 10 years old! and it's a super rare. No 3sge or 3sgte is legal in the states. Not smog passable, unless you live in the central part of america where smog laws are minimal. smog is done every 2 years btw.

If i got in an accident with my swapped engine and completely brand new celica I would kill myself, before you had a chance to throw the book at me. Yes I know that there are fines and what not. Its funny that you say that becuase I have a friend with a 6th gen celica swapped with a 3rd gen 3sgte. He got pulled over becuase he only has a downpipe and no exhaust so its so loud. Cop even made him open his hood and gave him a referee ticket. It even says 2000cc on the top mount intercooler and the officer wasnt smart enough to run the vin # on the vehicle. He somehow got out of the referee ticket even though he had to pay some fines. He got lucky!

Im only 19 years old and still have much too learn about engines. So Ill take your word on the crankpulley and not get one. But I figured that since maikl did it I could do it as well.

I guess this will end up being what I do:

Short ram intake (already got this figured out! just talked to mr220 v)
-HKS Hi Power Exhaust Silent (65 mm piping) and De-Cat Pipe
-Custom made header that has the same piping design as original header (just so I have a clean looking header like one that maikl has in gold color!)
-C One flywheel. RST12-29-2009, 08:59 PMMan I gave you an easy route to gains on the red top without opening the engine? Do you suspect gaskets otherwise like Angelo said you should replace everything you open.

I gotta ask though where are you guys hetting $4k for fitting an ECU though? I paid circa £1k for my swap (minus all materials), all the wiring was taken into account and paid another £1.6k incl dyno time (mates rates) and the road mapping was included. sh1t, I never paid close to $4k end of on my engine so far apart from the engine itself and that includes ECU. I( haven't done anything daft / OCD like Angelo though:rofl::rofl:)


...BTW, I looked into piggyback's and there's none. CAMCON alters VVT-i to some extent but there's nothing tuneable or offers anything. hence the list of ECU's presented. MANDALAY12-30-2009, 01:03 AMYeh thats about the same price remember your pounds
Its actually dearer than $4000 aussie.
Wiing im doing myself but generally $500
MoTec + VVTi approx $3500 then tunning around $1500 minimum PROPER that is.

The link is cheaper thou but still $2500 or the Motec 400 at $2500. So we are really talking the same prices , Tuning can be brought dow to $300 but that would be veryyyyyyyyyy basic
He was wanting to do it ALL for $1000 BonzaiCelica12-30-2009, 12:56 PMnaw i was expecting to pay somewhere around $1500-2000 for a stand alone ecu. Plus another $1000 for a tune. RST01-01-2010, 07:16 PMForget aboout piggybacks dude unless you're looking for minor adjustments to take care of a (decent) inducion kit or exhaust as it seems to be very sensitive.

I think Angelo and I (wayno and no doubt Glenn) are running aftermarket ECU's with good results but I'll b et our bottom dollar the choice of the mapper has a llot to do with it. I hate to say but it's not a regular 3SGE so you can't just go with the 3SGTE guys recommendations.

...Link was a good option for me, cost about £1,500 including a very hefty mapping session and he was very familiar with it. There wasn't any benefits for going Motec when I bought. Celica RA4501-04-2010, 06:48 AMthere is also a new ecu availible here which is c alled adaptronic its about 1000 aussie plus loom and you can run the std sensors as well and it does
vvti as well pasqual01-04-2010, 08:00 AMthere is also a new ecu availible here which is c alled adaptronic its about 1000 aussie plus loom and you can run the std sensors as well and it does
vvti as well

My red-top is running on Adaptronic already 7 months :)

I did harnes/loom myself BonzaiCelica01-04-2010, 04:51 PMalright guys thanks for all the suggestions and help. I truly appreciate it. But I still have much to learn so Ill just stick to minor bolt-ons for now and work my way from there. puretone01-05-2010, 12:10 PMDid everyone forget about apexi power fc from brashboy? I was thinking of going this route at some point, not enough time & money right now.....maybe some day still tho BonzaiCelica01-06-2010, 03:49 AMhmm really, I looked that up and found this.

Buy APEX'i Power FC - Main Unit (http://www.optionimports.com/appofcforsr.html)

the redtop has the same type of ecu that the 1zz-ge has right? Edophus01-06-2010, 04:36 AMhmm really, I looked that up and found this.

Buy APEX'i Power FC - Main Unit (http://www.optionimports.com/appofcforsr.html)

the redtop has the same type of ecu that the 1zz-ge has right?

yeah i have a test harness i made to use the 1zz-fe power-fc, i used a zzw30 1zz-fe power-fc, from memory you need to take the four seperate ignition coil returns and splice them together, move the warning light wire, and just a couple of other changes i cant remember right now but its all dead simple, you need 1zz-fe coils but they are a direct swap for the beams ones, I have the info but its been a while since i did it, and the harness and coils are there for anyone who wanted to go down this route i'd only charge postage + beer tokens :) BonzaiCelica03-10-2010, 03:49 AMhey guys I was looking on the best motoring videos off youtube and it seems like almost all of the cars that are tuned and put on the touge and the racetrack have apex power fc ecu. are apex power fc a good standalone ecu. what kinda horsepower gains can you expect from a standalone ecu. And if you wanted to increase redline on the redtop, it would be best to fully rebuild the engine with new gaskets right?

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