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Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-02-2007, 11:58 AMlook at the pics in my garage thingy on here and take a look at my frame rail. i bought the car this way and the guy didn't say ANYTHING about anykind of frame damage or anything. i had a guy come look at it and he said if i chain the rear end to one of the trees in the yard and chain the front end to my buddies truck and use this chain ratchet thing (a come-along i think he called it), heat up the crumpled parts of the frame with 2 torches, and slowly pull it out with the come-along, it'll pull out just fine without needing to bring it to a shop. does this sound like a load of crap to anyone else, or just me?:undecided RePete08-02-2007, 02:32 PMHoly Jumpin', I almost broke my wrist getting to your gallery garage thingy, must have been 30 clicks, next time post pics instead.

I think that 'guy' who told you to stretch your '2 like a piece of spaghetti is full of shit. What sort of tolerances and you going to get out of pulling it like that? If you've never done this before then it's time for a trip to the shop.

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/Goten6969/Front.jpg

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http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g39/Goten6969/Frame1.jpg David08-02-2007, 02:36 PMare these pics. his? whoever said that is full of s**t Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-02-2007, 02:59 PMthe pics and the car are mine. yea when i heard the guy say that i just about broke out laughing cuz it just sounded SO...... SO....... SO....... just something i don't want to do to my baby. plus i don't really have the kind of money to bring it to a shop and be like alright heres my car, you want me to bend over the desk or your tool box so you can **** me square in the ass over my car. even though it kinda makes sense, and it does seem like it COULD work, i just don't know if i wanna risk it. unless someone could give me a some what quote on what they think it would cost.


I dunno, i'd wanna do it myself and save some money, but i don't wanna majorly **** up my 2. So what does everyone else think, TRY it myself and see if it just might work out. or bring it to a shop and hand them my next 4 paychecks. Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-02-2007, 03:00 PMand how did you manage to take 30 clicks to get to my garage, all it takes is 4. :lol: PETC08-02-2007, 03:14 PMNever ever attach your car to chains and let rednecks pull at it with Dodge Powerwagons. Never a good idea. If it's that bad just get a new car.

That being said, a little welding and some skilled body work and that's a weekend job. Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-02-2007, 03:16 PMok!


A: It'll be with a Chevy, not a ****in POS Dodge.
B: I just got this car and i don't plan on gettin rid of it that easily. mopwer08-02-2007, 05:51 PMIt would be less expensive to find a shell in good shape and swap everything over and you would have a better car in the end.

Oh, and that "POS Dodge" Cummins will rip your 2 in two!

Greg Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-02-2007, 11:16 PMwell i've decided. im goin to talk to this guy i work with cuz him and one of his friends use to own a shop together (now just his friend owns it). he told me he would fix it for $500. so i think i'll just do that. cuz it's kinda hard to find decent shape shells in ******* MN. PETC08-02-2007, 11:24 PMI never said anything about a cummins. PETC08-02-2007, 11:25 PMPowerwagon son.

http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/Cars/PowerWagon/PowerWagon-1-01.jpg Gairloch08-03-2007, 12:11 AMGood to see another local guy around. :) I live in St. Louis Park.

Where'd you get the car from? I had to drive to Lansing MI to find mine.

I have heard of using the truck and tree method for pulling a car out. That's mostly for cars that you just need to run and don't care how they look though. sickof5sfe08-03-2007, 12:47 AMwell i've decided. im goin to talk to this guy i work with cuz him and one of his friends use to own a shop together (now just his friend owns it). he told me he would fix it for $500. so i think i'll just do that. cuz it's kinda hard to find decent shape shells in ******* MN.


yeah no kidding Minnesota has next to nothing when it comes to 2's..i had to search for a long time before i found mine:D mopwer08-03-2007, 07:44 AMPowerwagon son.

http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/Cars/PowerWagon/PowerWagon-1-01.jpg

Love those things! My uncle had one on grandpa's farm.

Greg Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-03-2007, 07:49 AMWell im from Minnetonka so we're not that far away from eachother. well i hopped on craigslist.com and thats where i found it, the guy i got it from lived in St. Paul. but when i got it, it didn't have a passenger side front fender, one of the tires was all the way flat, it's got some pretty bad rust in some spots. i knew the body was in bad shape (seeing as i got it in MN), but the guy didn't say anything about frame damage, but the thing that suprised me, was with how bad it looked the thing ****in fired up right there no problem at all, and dude said it had been sittin for quite awhile. and i've wanted a 2 for long enough that i didn't care. sickof5sfe08-03-2007, 02:24 PMyeah ther'es also a black turbo for sale for like 3700 in lino lakes, I went out to look at it and it was once a salvage title so I asked the guy if it had any frame damage and he didn't know, i didn't wanna risk cuz i have had bad experiences with cars and frame damage, but i found my mechanic friend had a white N/A in great condition, with of course a little rust (******* minnesota) but since there aren't too many of em around i picked it up Choctaw08-03-2007, 02:32 PMLove those things! My uncle had one on grandpa's farm.

Greg

Thats the 1st bigfoot truck I've ever liked; great paint job, green is my favorite color. Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-03-2007, 02:38 PMwell i talked to the guy today about pullin my frame, he said he'd do it and not even charge me for it. THAT ****IN RULES! so hopefully he gets it done quick so i can atleast be driving it by october. and i swear to ******* christ if i end up driving this thing for a month and it's starts ******* snowing............ im gonna be pissed. I hope this winter is like last year so i can drive the MR2 just about the whole entire winter, without worring about snow. MN just needs to stop having snow. or we atleast need a way to not have ice on the road, cuz we've ALL seen what happens from all that ******* salt and crap. Gairloch08-03-2007, 02:51 PMWhere are you going to have the frame pulled? sickof5sfe08-03-2007, 02:56 PMwell i talked to the guy today about pullin my frame, he said he'd do it and not even charge me for it. THAT ****IN RULES! so hopefully he gets it done quick so i can atleast be driving it by october. and i swear to ******* christ if i end up driving this thing for a month and it's starts ******* snowing............ im gonna be pissed. I hope this winter is like last year so i can drive the MR2 just about the whole entire winter, without worring about snow. MN just needs to stop having snow. or we atleast need a way to not have ice on the road, cuz we've ALL seen what happens from all that ******* salt and crap.

amen to that I ******* hate minnesota winters!! sooo unpredictable, that's why I'm gonna get some crappy 500-1000 dollar beater and drive that instead and keep the 2 in a nice warm garage awaiting the spring :D Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-03-2007, 03:04 PMWhere are you going to have the frame pulled?

Well a guy i work with, him and one of his freinds kinda own a shop together, i think it MIGHT be in minneapolis or st. paul, or somewhere around here, not sure what it's called though.


amen to that I ******* hate minnesota winters!! sooo unpredictable, that's why I'm gonna get some crappy 500-1000 dollar beater and drive that instead and keep the 2 in a nice warm garage awaiting the spring :D

i hear ya on the beater, i had a 95 dodge intrepid, but i sold it to make room in the garage for the 2........ now i kinda wish i hadn't........ oh well i'll just make my girlfriend lat me rip around in her V6 Passat. that things fun in the snow. dvoth08-03-2007, 03:20 PMWhat year is that power Wagon?:undecided Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-03-2007, 03:23 PMok no one gives a **** about the power wagon, you wanna know about it, you can PM him. dvoth08-03-2007, 03:30 PMOk :( Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-03-2007, 03:36 PMsorry. no hard feeling. i just need to get off of work RIGHT NOW! Choctaw08-03-2007, 09:00 PMYah, I would love to ride/drive one. David08-04-2007, 07:01 PMmopar's are freakin awsome! jakobe08-04-2007, 07:46 PMNever ever attach your car to chains and let rednecks pull at it with Dodge Powerwagons. Never a good idea. If it's that bad just get a new car.

That being said, a little welding and some skilled body work and that's a weekend job.

try it it works!


http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x271/williad2/?action=view¤t=3ca1a243.flv jakobe08-04-2007, 07:50 PMPowerwagon son.

http://www.hotrodscustomstuff.com/Cars/PowerWagon/PowerWagon-1-01.jpg

http://www.the5syndicate.com/mr2/*****w.jpg mopwer08-06-2007, 05:59 PMtry it it works!


Video of snowtow - Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting (http://s180.photobucket.com/albums/x271/williad2/?action=view¤t=3ca1a243.flv)

I love that one. Morons...

Greg schmiddr208-07-2007, 03:38 PMThat video is funny every time I watch it!

We'll I had a similar problem with my 91. My frame was not bent badly but the bumper support was mangled like yours. I tried to heat the steel but the frame wasn't having it. I chose to cut it off where it becomes straight again and then have a shop fabricate an identical piece. It matched up and I welded it on. I also welded nuts to the inside of the bolt holes so the bumper frame could be attached. BTW it will never be new so hope you don't expect everything to line up perfectly, it wont. Unless a shop does it and you pay $$$$.
I have had success with this tool. http://www.chicagolandmgclub.com/members/images/tools/hyd_kit.jpg Don't Worry, It's Just Me08-07-2007, 03:52 PMi not it's not goin to be like new again or line up as nice as it should, but i have 2 possible shops i can bring it to to get worked on, and i can get some pretty cheap prices at both. so im goin to see whats goin on with them. **** for all i know i may just have to do it the same way and cut it off and have a new piece made. but im gettin off work, so i'll talk to all you people later. 55mr210-04-2007, 08:00 PMi not it's not going to be like new again or line up as nice as it should, but i have 2 possible shops i can bring it to to get worked on, and i can get some pretty cheap prices at both. so I'm goin to see whats goin on with them. **** for all i know i may just have to do it the same way and cut it off and have a new piece made. but im gettin off work, so i'll talk to all you people later.

Following up on some of your posts about doing the body work on the deuce and found this thread, hope you don't mind if I comment on the "not as good as new"

A guy who owns a body shop told me that imports were a PITA as far as replacing body panels go because, he claimed, "I can take any domestic with a f***ed up frame and make it look perfect from the outside. Most domestics are designed to be put together fast, with a lot of allowances for misfitting parts. With imports, the tolerances are a lot finer so if the frame isn't right, the parts won't fit so I have to spend more time on them getting everything straight."

If you cut away the damaged part, graft on an undamaged part, and do it properly, then all the other parts will just bolt on straight and true. Oh, it won't be good as new except that when you repaint it and clearcoat it using modern day paints, it will look better than new and will look that way longer.:twocents: Hellstorm10-05-2007, 01:19 AMyou need to find the guy that sold you the car and beat the **** out of him for not telling you about this. And if he did..... shame on you for buying it. :/ Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 07:25 AMif he would have tole me about it i wouldn't have even thought about buying it. especially not for $950. Hellstorm10-05-2007, 09:16 AMWell then go beat his ass! Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 09:21 AMsee i would......... but then what does that solve? i still have a f**ked up MR2. plus he's a big asain dude who lives in kind of a bad part of town. so i'd rather not f**k around with that. ixtlann10-05-2007, 09:30 AMmy frame rail is crashed much worse the that but only ont hr passenger side, from accident. If it needs to be cut out and a new peice of frame rail sectioned in like in my case its not worth getting done
frame rail from toyota about $804, then the sharge 10.5 hours labor to do the job i think that about $1400 right there, no bs str8 from a good shops estimate, they weren bsing or inflating the price they looked at it and said it might not be worth it unless its sentimnetal to ya, and wrote me up a str8 estimate ne wayz. all together with hood fender bumper paint im looking at $4200
and i was thinking i know its a 1993 turbo and all but.... $4200 later ill still have a very nice looking but old car that neead new interior, and other tlc (starting to get piston slap possibly but still seems to run very well)
So i bought a 1991 turbo wid good body, decent..... paint bad motor TreyMR210-05-2007, 09:31 AMsee i would......... but then what does that solve? i still have a f**ked up MR2. plus he's a big asain dude who lives in kind of a bad part of town. so i'd rather not f**k around with that.

that explains why its wreaked Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 09:36 AMIf it needs to be cut out and a new peice of frame rail sectioned in like in my case its not worth getting done
frame rail from toyota about $804 see but theres a MR2 for sale by my house that rolled over, and the dude said he'd sell me just the frame rails, i just need to tell him how much of it i need. then i can go and talk to my old Teacher (i went to Technical College for Auto Mechanics), and i KNOW FOR A FACT he'd help me with any car related thing i need, plus im friends with the teacher from the auto body part too. so that takes care of all that. 3sgtepower10-05-2007, 09:44 AMNow all you need to do is find a rear wrecked MR2, and torch off the front and weld it onto your other MR2.

Not that I have any idea how to do this, but I beleive thats what bodyshops would probably tell you what you would have to do to that car to have a straight frame with the correct clearances on bodypanels, I know thats what I was told when I front wrecked my first MR2. Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 09:49 AMNow all you need to do is find a rear wrecked MR2.

yea, but it's hard enough just trying to find a MR2 in MN, see this rolled MR2 that i mentioned. i need a new front bumper, the bumper on it looks fine, all i need is the frame rail, and thats it. later on i'll get a new hood, and maybe a A/C condencer (if i want to keep the AC), and the front support for the bumper. and thats it. he already said he'd do the front support for $40. so all together the rail, the front support, and the bumper, i couldn't see him goin over $300. Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 09:52 AMall in all i think im just goin to try and get the $1000 for this rolled MR2, cuz then everything i need to fix my MR2 is right there, besides the new hood. cuz theres some rust spots on there im goin to have to cut out and take from a donor car, and that would just be perfect. 55mr210-05-2007, 11:23 AMThe front clip used to fix mine cost $500. From it was salvaged rails, fender, lights, hood, frunk stuff, suspension parts, etc etc. If the rolled MR2 has enough parts to salvage it could make a good donor car. At least the parts should fit rather than trying to fabricate parts from scratch. I watched someone splice the front end of a Camero to a 1956 Ford pickup so he could run a small block V8 in a hot rodded truck and he did it in his garage with some fairly basic tools.

It's not rocket science. Yes you need to know what you're doing but it's got to be way less complicated that rebuilding/swapping an engine and people in this forum seem to do it about as often as I change underwear:lol: and I don't hear them saying to each other "Just get a better MR2". So go for it and I'm sure somebody in this forum will have gone through the same thing and will be able to offer advice.

I know what it's like to live in a city where MR2s are rare. Your options are limited as far as availability of either nice ones that are good to go or even wrecked ones that can be used for parts. Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 11:27 AMwell then that makes it final, im goin to get that rolled one, and swap what i can. what all parts are you lookin for in the interior 55mr2? 55mr210-05-2007, 11:45 AMI just need the leather shift boot (if it's not all tattered like mine) and the driver side power window switch thinggy (if BOTH clips are intact). Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 11:46 AMhttp://images.craigslist.org/01011001020001040520070912ca4030fda69a839a430031d1 .jpg
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this is the one that rolled. Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 11:50 AMI just need the leather shift boot (if it's not all tattered like mine) and the driver side power window switch thinggy (if BOTH clips are intact).

alrighty, i'll take a look at it when im goin to get it. DrWonderEyes10-05-2007, 01:01 PMfunny. how many wrecked mr2s out there in the scrap yard are there because they weren't hit in the front? lets be serious.

90% of all mr2's are in the junkyard cause they got creamed in the front 55mr210-05-2007, 01:22 PMfunny. how many wrecked mr2s out there in the scrap yard are there because they weren't hit in the front? lets be serious.

90% of all mr2's are in the junkyard cause they got creamed in the front

:thumbup:I guess that's where the seemingly endless supply of rear clips are coming from. Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 01:25 PMi just wish the rolled MR2 had a GENIII swap in it, cuz that would take care of pretty much EVERYTHING i want to do, unless i still get my friends Camry when she's done with it, then i might still go 3VZ-FE! 3sgtepower10-05-2007, 01:31 PMIts nice to see 2 otherwise totaled MR2's, being restored to a working driveable MR2.

We need more enthusiasts like you in the community. Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-05-2007, 01:37 PMthey're undoubtable one of the most beautiful cars ever made, and to see one for sale thats totaled it's just blasphemy to not buy it and not make it the way it should be. ixtlann10-11-2007, 09:36 PMsee but theres a MR2 for sale by my house that rolled over, and the dude said he'd sell me just the frame rails, i just need to tell him how much of it i need. then i can go and talk to my old Teacher (i went to Technical College for Auto Mechanics), and i KNOW FOR A FACT he'd help me with any car related thing i need, plus im friends with the teacher from the auto body part too. so that takes care of all that.
Good luck, I think your nutz still, its a unibody u can just weld those pieces on, you need to get on a frame machine still, over all I'm no expert but ur probably far ahead just to sell the bad one and get a good one 2restomod10-17-2007, 05:15 PMthey're undoubtable one of the most beautiful cars ever made, and to see one for sale thats totaled it's just blasphemy to not buy it and not make it the way it should be.
I don't think we need to see that rolled one on the road anytime soon :omg: But I'm with you on the swap front end deal if it's got a straight front end. Mine was swapped by the previous owner and it rolls straight. The only problem was when the MVD inspector saw that the front VIN didn't match the other VIN #'s. This guy (or shop) swapped the whole front end from the firewall (?) up and I couldn't even detect the welds when I had the fenders off. Good luck with it. Post some picks when you're done. I think $1000 for a totaled car is a little steep though. Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-19-2007, 07:26 AMyea, i don't wanna spend that much on it either. fosley10-19-2007, 10:41 AMPersonally, I'd suggest you cut the frame rail off the other car (and get a couple inches more than you need), then take everything to a professional and let them line it up. It's just the bumper support, but it can be tricky to make things line up right while you're trying to weld them together.

BTW, is your radiator held in by zip-ties, or are those serving another purpose? Also, do you have more? If so, just put the bumper on with zip-ties and don't worry about the whole structural support thing--they just put frames on cars to charge you more anyways. ;) Don't Worry, It's Just Me10-19-2007, 10:46 AMBTW, is your radiator held in by zip-ties, or are those serving another purpose? Also, do you have more? If so, just put the bumper on with zip-ties and don't worry about the whole structural support thing--they just put frames on cars to charge you more anyways. ;)

the zip ties are holding up the support beam thing for the radiator, and i already have the bumper zip tied on.:ghetto: but it works! Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.2.5 Copyright © 2026 vBulletin Solutions Inc. All rights reserved.